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#193901 - 17/12/2003 12:39 MkI
witte2004
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Registered: 16/12/2003
Posts: 12
MY Mk1 will take about 2 minutes to boot up and it wont syncronize at all is there a way to reset it i have tryed to put songs on it many times and no luck


Edited by witte2004 (17/12/2003 12:43)

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#193902 - 17/12/2003 12:42 Re: MkI [Re: witte2004]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31575
Loc: Seattle, WA
MY Mk1 will take about 2 minutes to load up
Is it this problem?
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#193903 - 17/12/2003 14:08 Re: MkI [Re: tfabris]
witte2004
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Registered: 16/12/2003
Posts: 12
here is the first hyper terminal section. i dont know what any of this means. any ideas?

Remounting second music partition read-only
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply...
Starting player
qqqq player.cpp : 385:empeg-<A TITLE="Click for more information about car" STYLE="text-decoration: none; border-bottom: medium solid green;" HREF="http://search.targetwords.com/u.search?x=5977|1||||cars|AA1VDw">car</A> 2.00-beta13 2002/07/24.
q! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002).

q
q
q
q
qhda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=138528, sector=5466
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:03 (hda), sector 5466
qhda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveRead
qhda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveRead

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#193904 - 17/12/2003 14:13 Re: MkI [Re: witte2004]
witte2004
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Registered: 16/12/2003
Posts: 12
empeg init 0.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
Mounting second music partition
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply...
Starting player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00-beta13 2002/07/24.
! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002).
hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=138528, sector=5466
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:03 (hda), sector 5466
hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=138528, sector=5468
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:03 (hda), sector 5468
hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=138528, sector=5470
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:03 (hda), sector 5470
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1425 Mar 12 2002
Vcb: 0x4028d000
! power.cpp ú

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#193905 - 17/12/2003 14:18 Re: MkI [Re: witte2004]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
You're having hardware problems. If this is truly a MkI, then chances are you have a bad hard drive. Of course, it's probably easier and cheaper to check the cable and the header first. Read this FAQ for more info.

By the way, this seems to be in completely the wrong forum.
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#193906 - 17/12/2003 14:31 Re: MkI [Re: wfaulk]
witte2004
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Registered: 16/12/2003
Posts: 12
if the hard drive was bad would it still have songs on it and play them? it will eventuall boot up in the car and house after 2-3 mins but it wont synchronize in emplode. it stops at building databases .

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#193907 - 17/12/2003 14:40 Re: MkI [Re: witte2004]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31575
Loc: Seattle, WA
If you had read the very first link I gave you, you would have seen that database trouble can be caused by hard disk trouble.

You have two problems.

Problem 1: Hard disk trouble, either because of a bad hard disk or connection trouble between the hard disk and the rest of the player.

Problem 2: A corrupted database file as a direct result of problem 1.

You must solve the problems, in order of Problem 1, then problem 2. You have been given links that describe how to solve the problems. Please avail yourself of them.

PS: Check your IDE cables carefully. Since you have a Mk1, you might be having the problem I had with my Mk1 which was that a jumper on the motherboard rubbed the cable and wore off the insulation, causing a short.
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#193908 - 17/12/2003 14:42 Re: MkI [Re: witte2004]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
It's possible. It might be a transient, if common, error, or it might be that the drive finally gives up and the application ignores it or gets bad data that you don't notice, or it might be only a particualr section of the drive that's bad that isn't really noticeable while playing the music.

Regardless, there's not much point in arguing about it. The errors that you listed expressly indicate a hardware error. It's now a task of finding out what hardware is causing the problem. The three non-fatal suspects are the drive, the cable, and the header. I'd check those first. It's possible that the IDE controller is going bad, or that some traces have gone bad, or some other basically irreparable problem, but I'd say that those possibilities are quite unlikely.
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#193909 - 17/12/2003 14:44 Re: MkI [Re: wfaulk]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31575
Loc: Seattle, WA
Also, the Mk1's shock mounts are more prone to coming undone, so damage to the ide cable or drive itself is more likely on a Mk1 than a Mk2.
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#193910 - 17/12/2003 14:45 Re: MkI [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Good point.
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#193911 - 17/12/2003 15:39 Re: MkI [Re: wfaulk]
witte2004
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Registered: 16/12/2003
Posts: 12
lets say its the hard drive is it the IBM travelstar ones im goin to have my computer teacher check it out tomorrow


Edited by witte2004 (17/12/2003 17:02)

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#193912 - 17/12/2003 15:45 Re: MkI [Re: witte2004]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I'm going to punctuate that beacuse I'm not sure if what I'm reading is what you meant:
Let's say it's the hard drive. Is it the IBM Travelstar ones? I'm goin' to have my computer teacher bitch check it out tomorrow.
You want to know what to buy as a replacement? Any laptop hard drive should do as long as it fits in the case. The Drive Upgrade Guide has info on the exact dimensions.

Tony says that a frayed cable might be likely on a MkI. Take a look at that and see if you can see any worn places.

And if your computer teacher is nice enough to check hardware components for you, you might want to reconsider calling her a bitch.
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#193913 - 17/12/2003 17:01 Re: MkI [Re: wfaulk]
witte2004
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Registered: 16/12/2003
Posts: 12
i believe the ide cables r bad there is a pretty big gap where can i get one of these? what was the other thing that could be wrong besides this and the harddrive. Thanks for all your help with this

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#193914 - 17/12/2003 17:06 Re: MkI [Re: witte2004]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31575
Loc: Seattle, WA
The Drive Upgrade Guide lists the part number of the correct IDE cable of the Mk1.
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#193915 - 17/12/2003 17:38 Re: MkI [Re: witte2004]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14483
Loc: Canada
The MK1 IDE cables are rarely bad, if ever.

Try redoing the boot sequence a few times (2-3), and see if the lbasec=xxxxx values ever change from those you posted here earlier. If not, then the hard drive REALLY DOES have bad sectors, which can only be fixed by overwriting them. Easiest thing to try to overwrite them is to simply do a reinstall of the empeg software -- the v2final .upgrade file. That will fix it if the bad sects are in any of the important files.

Cheers

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#193916 - 17/12/2003 20:30 Re: MkI [Re: mlord]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
I've seen bad cables and a bad IDE header in a MKl plus a bad serial port.
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MKI #017/90

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#193917 - 17/12/2003 22:25 Re: MkI [Re: Laura]
witte2004
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Registered: 16/12/2003
Posts: 12
what is the header

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#193918 - 17/12/2003 22:44 Re: MkI [Re: witte2004]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
The pins on the motherboard where the cable attaches.
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#193919 - 18/12/2003 00:04 Re: MkI [Re: witte2004]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
I'm confused, why is this in the Karma forum?

Edit: Tom moved it. It was true when I asked.


Edited by dbrashear (18/12/2003 00:47)

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