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#219634 - 25/06/2004 20:48 Buttons - Color Choice Poll
Micman2b
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Registered: 27/12/2001
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OK, decided to do a poll to see what colors you think you would buy as a primary color.

I think a set of five(5) or three(3) buttons and one knob for one price is a good way to go. Reply to this post with your list of what you would lke to see in the kits.

: trying to fix the poll
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Edited by l0ser (30/07/2004 22:19)
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#219635 - 25/06/2004 20:53 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: Micman2b]
Micman2b
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For the kit I would like to see the follwoing colors:

Red
Blue
Grey - Lt
Amber
Clear

Sean in NC
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#219636 - 25/06/2004 21:21 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: Micman2b]
JrFaust
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Registered: 07/02/2002
Posts: 193
Loc: New Richmond, WI
I vote for a 5 color kit.

Red
Blue
Amber
Smoke - Light
Clear
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#219637 - 25/06/2004 21:45 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: JrFaust]
FireFox31
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Registered: 19/09/2002
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Loc: East Coast, USA
Ya'll forgetting Green!

Smoke, Red, Blue, Yellow, Green

I wonder if we can get clear though. Perhaps if all the plastic is clear with dye added to make the color, we can just have the caster bang out some plain sets. I'll put that on my list of questions for casters.
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#219638 - 25/06/2004 22:39 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: Micman2b]
genixia
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Surely the difference between Smoke Lt and Smoke Dk is the intensity of the LED, and aquamarine and teal are effectively the same colour. Yellow and Amber are going to look very similar and clear is unlikely to work.
I assume that the greys and white are intended to be (virtually?) opaque. I can't see translucency working in those colours without the result being similar to a smoked button.

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#219639 - 26/06/2004 09:36 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: FireFox31]
SonicSnoop
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Registered: 29/06/2002
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Really all I want is blue, but if I had to get a full set which is fine Red Blue Green and what ever else gets thrown in. Some UV ones would be cool but I wont hold my breathe on them.
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#219640 - 27/06/2004 11:08 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: Micman2b]
smu
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Registered: 30/07/2000
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hi.

I'm not sure what you mean with "5(3) buttons and 1 knob". Hopefully, you don't mean 5(3) different colors for the buttons but only one color for the knob. That would probably look silly in most combinations. Please include a full set of 4 buttons and 1 knob for each color.
For the colors to be ordered most likely, I would guess at
- green
- blue
- red
- amber
- smoke
I would tend to a pretty dark smoke one myself, but others may have different tastes.

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#219641 - 28/06/2004 14:39 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: Micman2b]
Micman2b
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For some reason this poll has been ended, I will find out if it can be reactivated...

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#219642 - 28/06/2004 14:54 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: smu]
genixia
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Quote:

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<br>For the colors to be ordered most likely, I would guess at
<br>- green
<br>- blue
<br>- red
<br>- amber
<br>- smoke
<br>I would tend to a pretty dark smoke one myself, but others may have different tastes.





That would work for me too.
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#219643 - 28/06/2004 15:37 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: FireFox31]
Skunk
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Registered: 26/08/2003
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Loc: California
yes, please find out about the clear or cloudy buttons.

I want to install blue LED's and lightly coat the clear buttons with a silver paint (made specially for plastic) so that the buttons look normal in day light but still be able to show light through the button at night.
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#219644 - 29/06/2004 05:14 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: Skunk]
srhodes
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Registered: 30/01/2000
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Loc: Derbyshire, UK
Hmmm ... for my current car I'm trying to match the colour of the needles on the dash. The neon orange lens goes well with the rest of it. So, at the moment I'd be interested in (in order of preference)

Red
Orange
Smoke
Green
Blue

I guess that tries to cover any future lens combinations I might use. I'm not happy with my current car choice and might have to go for something completely different.
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#219645 - 03/07/2004 16:49 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: FireFox31]
Taym
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I'd want a set in each color made.

Also, I'd LOVE to have some chrome buttons, if possible at all. Woudl that be an option? If thwy were actually metal, it would be great. But plastic or any other material which somehow has a chrome look would be great.
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#219646 - 03/07/2004 22:36 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: Taym]
FireFox31
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I'm honestly thinking that clear buttons should be on the list. I have it on my list to ask casters, "Do we get the colors by adding dye to clear plastic? If so, can we run off a bunch of clear sets?"

That way maybe people could modify them (like you and Skunk mentioned) to get those cool effects or colors of their choice. Maybe people could color the "back" surfaces which don't come in contact with their fingers. Then maybe the light could shine through this exterior color and maybe push it throught buttons.
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#219647 - 07/07/2004 13:42 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: FireFox31]
Major_Sarcasm
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Registered: 28/08/2003
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Loc: Isle of Wight, UK
Blue
Green
Red
Smoke
Amber

In order of preference
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#219648 - 08/07/2004 00:11 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: FireFox31]
Taym
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Quote:
"Do we get the colors by adding dye to clear plastic? If so, can we run off a bunch of clear sets?"

If they only could be chromed, I think most Audi owners here would be happy. I am using a metal knob by 303 metal fascia, and it matches wonderfully the metal components (glovebox handles, AC temp knobs, door handles), and if I could only get the four empeg bottons chromed I think it would simply look perfect...
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#219649 - 08/07/2004 01:11 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: Taym]
Waterman981
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Registered: 14/02/2002
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Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
Me, I'm thinking of trying to paint the buttons black. Masking off < or > to look more like the rest of the buttons/controls.
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#219650 - 08/07/2004 16:31 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: Waterman981]
Skunk
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Registered: 26/08/2003
Posts: 525
Loc: California
If you do, I recommend this product.

I've successfully used the Silver paint on my buttons with great results! I've had my all buttons painted for about five months now and have not encountered any wear, chips, scuffs or fading of the paint. This paint penetrates the plastic so there is no added thickness to the buttons once painted.

It's great for those who would like a change in color of their fascia too.
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#219651 - 19/07/2004 13:53 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: Waterman981]
Taym
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That's actually a good idea, too. The four buttons are basically the only gray things in my dash. If black, they'd be still better.
On the other hand, I'd like to keep a set of original buttons unchanged, so hopefully I'll be able to order some buttons from theones about to be produced and panint those...
I guess the silver paint does not look "chrome", does it? I mean, close enouth to other real chrome components in the interior?


Edited by taym (19/07/2004 14:15)
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#219652 - 19/07/2004 15:37 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: Taym]
Skunk
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Registered: 26/08/2003
Posts: 525
Loc: California
Quote:
I guess the silver paint does not look "chrome", does it? I mean, close enouth to other real chrome components in the interior?


Well it's a bit hard to tell from this photo even with the references.
The Silver is pretty reflective and looks somewhat white when photographed.
On top of the empeg I placed a chrome item and a Logitech black/silver mouse.
The Silver paint is a slightly brighter paint than that of the silver color on the mouse and i think it'd be safe to say that it closely comes to a brushed aluminum color.


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#219653 - 28/07/2004 01:03 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: Micman2b]
tracerbullet
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Loc: Minnesota
Quote:
For some reason this poll has been ended, I will find out if it can be reactivated...



Still not working.

I'm in for red, myself. It's the only color I care about, and would prompt me to get the light kit. Black would be choice #2, but as mentioned I might be able to do that one on my own.

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#219654 - 05/08/2004 03:37 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: Micman2b]
JaBZ
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Registered: 08/08/2001
Posts: 452
Loc: NZ
hmm poll is still R.I.P
I'd like

Clear
Blue
Smoke
Red
Green

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#219655 - 05/08/2004 22:20 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: JaBZ]
FireFox31
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Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
Thanks for the feedback. What kind of blue are you trying to match? Darkstorm deep blue? Filener's light blue? A specific lense brand and color will really help.

I am only days away from sending out my pile of button and color swatch samples. The colors will be based on Filener's flat smoke, flat red, flat green, raised amber, and the original dark blue from the factory rainbow set (comprable to Darkstorm's deep blue). Clear may happen also, if I can convince the molder to run them at no additional "color charge", because that would be just silly.

Thanks for the input.
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#219656 - 06/08/2004 06:40 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: FireFox31]
matthew_k
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Registered: 12/02/2002
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Loc: Berkeley, California
I'm not sure if it's been discussed in any of the recent threads, but the VFD colo(u)r has a large effect on the color through the lense. So a clear lense is green, and so on... Colors matched to the lenses won't really match, so to speak.

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#219657 - 06/08/2004 08:20 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: matthew_k]
pgrzelak
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It is actually exceptionally hard to get an exact match between the VFD and the white LEDs. You are better off trying to match the raw color of the lens so that everything looks uniform when "off". A bit of planned contrast when the unit is powered is (in my opinion) more desirable than something that _almost_ matches, but not quite.
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#219658 - 08/08/2004 14:10 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: matthew_k]
FireFox31
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Loc: East Coast, USA
Matthew, thanks for the note. I've been considering this dilemma since I first read about it during Stu's process, I believe. To my eye, both Brian's and Stu's buttons match the lenses perfectly when lit and unlit.

The only color difference I see in theirs when lit is the button *intensity*. To my eye, the white button LEDs make the buttons look like the lens color, just more powerful. I hope that contrast is acceptable, and if not, comments are very welcome.

So, I plan to match unlit material color to start. When I get a sample of colored buttons, I'll try them and see how they match the lenses. I will then note any difference in base color and have the molders adjust their process to fix it. Hopefully by a second itteration, the base color will match and only the known intensity difference will remain.

Smoke is the exception. To me, smoke lenses have always looked green, but Stu's smoke buttons are a nice gray. It seems like alot of people like smoke lenses but I've never seen a complaint that they are greenish. So, I'll try to produce grey buttons, because I guess that's the intended color. If people want "greyed VFD green" for smoke, let me know.
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#219659 - 08/08/2004 17:09 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: FireFox31]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
The VFD is greenish. If the lens doesn't change the color of the VFD, as the smoke won't -- it just makes it slightly dimmer -- it will appear the same color as the VFD, which, again, is greenish.
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#219660 - 09/08/2004 23:45 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: wfaulk]
FireFox31
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Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
I've always wondered if some outside-the-box thinker could make a smoke lense that actually *was* a color (instead of a gray shade) which could negate the VFD green and make the text look smoked. (hm... but then the lense would look like that anti-green color) Wait, who used the Filener rainbow gel kit to make white text? I have to try that combo...
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#219661 - 10/08/2004 00:30 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: FireFox31]
wfaulk
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Like this?
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#219662 - 10/08/2004 08:02 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: wfaulk]
pgrzelak
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The problem with that is that you lose a lot of visibility. Because you are filtering the VFD down to a white / smoke, it becomes much harder to read in bright conditions.
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#219663 - 10/08/2004 12:12 Re: Buttons - Color Choice Poll [Re: pgrzelak]
wfaulk
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I'd agree, but he said that it was the most visible thing he'd seen for daytime use:
Quote:
Plus, during the day it is the most readable color I've ever had.
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