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#244503 - 22/12/2004 06:08 No longer works on my network can anyone help!!
natewhip
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Registered: 03/11/2003
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Loc: Idaho
I have no idea why but all the sudden my rio mark II no longer works on my home network.. It worked fine last time i plugged it in to the network but now It is not being recognized by either of my computers. and the ethernet adress is not showing up in the about menue on the player if anyone has run into this problem in the past I sure could use the help

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#244504 - 22/12/2004 11:31 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: natewhip]
natewhip
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So I tried a few more theings to try to get this to work. I tried a twisted cable directly to the back of my computer, I loaded a older consumer operating system onto the player v2.0, I also disabled the firewall on XP service pack II, all of wich made no difference.

I am wondering if there could be a software/hardware problem with my player? I plug it in and the link light comes on. The firewall asked if it is ok to allow access to the player (before I disabled It) so I know that the computer sees some sorrt of connection.

What I dont understand is Why the player is not showing a network adress in the "about" menue. I think it might be safe to say that the problem is on the player side. I have tried several cables that are known to be good with no success.

If anyone has any idea what could be causing this, any input would be appreciated. [email protected]

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#244505 - 22/12/2004 12:27 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: natewhip]
wfaulk
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It probably means that the empeg is not acquiring an IP address from your DHCP server. Of course, that doesn't really help to narrow it down much. Did you change anything on your network recently? A new switch or hub, maybe?
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#244506 - 22/12/2004 15:52 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: natewhip]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Quote:
So I tried a few more theings to try to get this to work. I tried a twisted cable directly to the back of my computer, I loaded a older consumer operating system onto the player v2.0, I also disabled the firewall on XP service pack II, all of wich made no difference.

Those are good things to check, that's the first step. Make sure to go through all of the other troubleshooting steps here.

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I am wondering if there could be a software/hardware problem with my player?

Hardware, yes. Software, no. Not if you put on fresh 2.0 software and you don't have any special stuff in your config.ini that runs third-party programs or disables the network interface.
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#244507 - 22/12/2004 17:28 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: tfabris]
natewhip
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Registered: 03/11/2003
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Loc: Idaho
Okay, I went throu the trouble shooting steps, and tried both fixed adresses as well as DHCP,changing them on the router and the player to make sure that they matched. Neither one helped the problem. I even reloded v2.0 to make sure that by some chance I didn't load the incorrect one. I havent messed with the config.ini at all, I havent done much with this thing other than installing hijack and changing the boot logo's, but if I understand correctly reloading should set those back to how I bought it.

The only change I have made on the network recently is the addition of a wireless router, however it has been quite a while sence that was added. Just to rule that out I removed the wireless router, no change, replaced my other router with the wireless, and again no change, and tried plugging into the back of the machine again with a twisted cable, with no change.

Are there other operating systems for the MK II that might correct this problem, a third party or something?

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#244508 - 22/12/2004 17:34 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: natewhip]
wfaulk
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No. There are no other OSes.

Did you try to ping the empeg when you set it with a static IP? Does the link light come on on the switch port you plug it into? (I know you said it lit up, but I wasn't sure if you were talking about the empeg or the switch.)
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#244509 - 22/12/2004 17:42 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: wfaulk]
natewhip
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Loc: Idaho
yes it lights up. Just pinged it and timed out. I kinda expected that to happen because the player is not taking an adress, or atleast it is not displaying one in the "about" section on the main menue.

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#244510 - 22/12/2004 18:15 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: natewhip]
wfaulk
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Are you saying that you've assigned an IP manually and it still doesn't show anything in the About menu?
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#244511 - 22/12/2004 18:15 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: natewhip]
tfabris
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Wait, it's not displaying an IP address at all on the About section of the main menu?

That's distinctly odd.

No chance you put Mk1 software onto your Mk2 player is there?

Next step is a serial boot log.
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#244512 - 22/12/2004 18:18 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: tfabris]
natewhip
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Registered: 03/11/2003
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Loc: Idaho
Yes, I am saying that I assigned it manually and is not showing up. I double checked the 2.0 software that I installed and it was for the mk2.

Tony how do you do a serial boot log?? that sounds like a good idea.

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#244513 - 22/12/2004 18:31 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: natewhip]
natewhip
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Registered: 03/11/2003
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Loc: Idaho
I figured out the serial boot log, what do I need to look for I am looking through it right now

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#244514 - 22/12/2004 18:52 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: natewhip]
genixia
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Post it up here...
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#244515 - 22/12/2004 19:03 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: genixia]
natewhip
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Registered: 03/11/2003
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Loc: Idaho
I dont know if this is the correct log. it is quite lengthly. through emplode I went to tools/options/trouble shooting, and then checked the box for enabling logging is this the correct way? or am i going about it all wrong? it is in a notpad application is this correct?


this shows up several times near the end of the log
I pinged 127.0.0.1 and no packets were lost


13:48:51.140 Binding to 0.0.0.0:8300
13:48:51.140 Found interface '192.168.1.100'
13:48:51.156 Trying to broadcast packet on address '192.168.1.255'
13:48:51.156 Found interface '127.0.0.1'
13:48:51.156 net_discovery.cpp(95) : I [07b0] Selecting with timeout=1666ms

13:48:51.156 net_discovery.cpp(127) : I [07b0] ReceiveFrom returned 0 response=? unit=192.168.1.100

13:48:51.156 net_discovery.cpp(167) : I [07b0] Received ? from 192.168.1.100

13:48:51.156 net_discovery.cpp(152) : I [07b0] select took 0ms
13:48:51.156 net_discovery.cpp(95) : I [07b0] Selecting with timeout=1666ms

13:48:52.156 net_discovery.cpp(102) : I [07b0] Select timed out
13:48:52.156 Found interface '192.168.1.100'
13:48:52.156 Trying to broadcast packet on address '192.168.1.255'
13:48:52.156 Found interface '127.0.0.1'
13:48:52.156 net_discovery.cpp(95) : I [07b0] Selecting with timeout=666ms

13:48:52.156 net_discovery.cpp(127) : I [07b0] ReceiveFrom returned 0 response=? unit=192.168.1.100

13:48:52.156 net_discovery.cpp(148) : I [07b0] Found 192.168.1.100 again
13:48:52.156 net_discovery.cpp(152) : I [07b0] select took 0ms
13:48:52.156 net_discovery.cpp(95) : I [07b0] Selecting with timeout=666ms

13:48:52.828 net_discovery.cpp(102) : I [07b0] Select timed out
13:49:18.781 connection_win32.cpp(1058) : W [07b0] connect() failed: 10060
13:49:18.781 connection_win32.cpp(395) : I [07b0] UsbConnection(00B17AD8)::Open() device='\\?\usb#vid_084f&pid_0001#5&200e9eca&0&2#{248f0d00-0f88-11d3-9129-00104b62b7d4}'
13:49:18.781 connection_win32.cpp(444) : I [07b0] UsbConnection(00B17AD8)::Open()[C] = 0


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Edited by natewhip (22/12/2004 19:39)

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#244516 - 22/12/2004 20:09 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: natewhip]
natewhip
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Registered: 03/11/2003
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Loc: Idaho
am I reading this right when it says that it is trying to broadcast on 192.168.1.255?

I have the player assigned at 192.168.1.102
and my desktop is assigned to 192.168.1.100
router adress is 192.168.1.1
the range that the router will allow me to assign is 192.168.1.100-150

I tried to assign at 192.168.1.155 it wouldent let me

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#244517 - 22/12/2004 20:18 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: natewhip]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31583
Loc: Seattle, WA
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through emplode I went to tools/options/trouble shooting

We meant this serial boot log, although that information from Emplode might also be helpful.
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#244518 - 22/12/2004 21:51 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: tfabris]
natewhip
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Registered: 03/11/2003
Posts: 0
Loc: Idaho
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction on the serial boot log here it is


empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 ([email protected])flash, let them speak now,5
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,ce...:19:54 BST 2002
0000 empeg-car (issue9) board test version
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!tWinder Flo

ing Point Emulato
empeg init 0.8998 Corel Comp
I see this is

e000 v1.04image!
Copying kernel...
Mounti
Calling linux kernel...nting first music parti
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kernerro
Command line: mem=16m
Ca
Mounting second music parti
l.no
Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg51 (mac@aphex) (gcc version 2.95.3 200103154k code, 20k reserved, 372k dat
Error mounting partitions (possibly already mou
(release)) #16 Wed Jul 24 18:19:54 BST 2002 hash table e
Remounting first music partit
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11Buffer cach

IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
If there is anyone p
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)now,
ttyS
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)eir peace...
0000
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )
Signature is 20706d65 'emp '
0100 r
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 )dsp audio initialised
0120 testing ic 2 (0-15mb, high word)ialised
Starting kswapd v 1.5
em
01f0 ram test d
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled issued
0220 drive id IBM-DJSA-210
empeg rem
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART2c test
03f0 dsp/i2c ok usb ini
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
0410 temperature is 36te support initialis
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
If there is anyone present who
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012er hold their peace...it seems not. Let
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0004e00).
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA

e000 v1.04

empeg RDS driver initialised 0x00
Calling linux kernel..
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)................................. done, booting
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size-flash driver initialized
l.

VFS: Mounted root (ex
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, 9590MB w/384kB Cache, CHS=19485/16/63-pump v0.0
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPSess
empeg-flash driver initializednted r
Memory: 15024k/16M avai
smc chip id/revision 0x4000ed, 372k data, 4k init)
smc_init couldn't find cardhange_root: old root has d_
Partition check:entry hash table
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4 okay
Buf
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem f
Trying to unmount old root ... okayc partition read-only
Linux-
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8 1999 )ion read-only
I see this is a developer image! virtual tty driver for IrCOMM (
Mounting procMay 26 00:49:
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error : 385:empeg-c

Remounting first music partition read-only0
q
Resto
ttyS02 at
Remounting second music partition read-onlying first music partition read-only

No secondary hard diskemp '
Remounting
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You HaStarting playerempeg dsp audio initialisedrd disk
empeg dsp
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00-beta13 2002/07/24.ialiseder loop
empeg audio-in initialised, CS
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Jul 24 2002

empeg remote c
Vcb: 0x4086d000ton initialised
! mp3_decoder.cpp :1049:Failed to find valid sync after seeking to offset 2463id 1012
empeg:/empeg/bin# ip
0000 empeg-car (issue9) board test version 0.05 <[email protected]>
0100 ram test starting
0110 testing ic 1 (0-15mb, low word)
0120 testing ic 2 (0-15mb, high word)
01f0 ram test done
0200 ide detect
0210 command issued
0220 drive id IBM-DJSA-210
02f0 ide ok
0300 dsp/i2c test
03f0 dsp/i2c ok
0400 temperature detect
0410 temperature is 38
04f0 temperature ok
0500 usb detect
0510 usb rev 1012
05f0 usb ok
0600 ethernet detect
0611 ethernet not found
0700 cs4231 detect
0710 cs4231 rev a0
07f0 cs4231 ok
00f0 tests complete


Edited by natewhip (22/12/2004 22:27)

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#244519 - 22/12/2004 23:37 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: natewhip]
mlord
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Your attempt at "manually assigning an IP address" is flawed in some way. Please describe what you tried to do.

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#244520 - 23/12/2004 04:28 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: mlord]
natewhip
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Registered: 03/11/2003
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Loc: Idaho
I had orriginally tried to assign it manually through emplode using the configure player/network tab, as well as assigning it on my router as a static DNS.

then toni pointed me in the direction of the shell prompt and running a serial boot log. In the directions which I most likley did not follow correctly, it had a link to the developer info section where I found directives for configuring the network settings in the config.ini. to be honest with you this is the first time I had tried this metod and am vary sure that I did not get it done correctly.. I have no experiance using the shell prompt. everything I had tried earlier had been done using emplode and settings on my router.

I definetly need to take some time and read up on how to configure in the shell prompt. It seems like it could be a useful method if I can ever figure out how to use it. Any pointers would be appreciated. Iin addition, the FAQ's will most likely be in ther somewhere as well.

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#244521 - 23/12/2004 05:34 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: natewhip]
natewhip
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Registered: 03/11/2003
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Loc: Idaho
so how does one go about configuring in shell prompt??

is there a place that gives step by step instructions??

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#244522 - 30/12/2004 03:28 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: natewhip]
natewhip
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Registered: 03/11/2003
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Loc: Idaho
When I use the linux "arp -a" command (from another box) to find all the other computers on the local network, it returns the IP address and ethernet mac address of all the other NICs on the network, except for the empeg box. In place of the mac address, it says "incomplete". Does this mean that my empeg box's network interface is bad?

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#244523 - 30/12/2004 23:52 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: natewhip]
wfaulk
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Not necessairly. It just means that the computer has requested the empeg's MAC address but not yet received a response.
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#244524 - 31/12/2004 07:06 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: wfaulk]
natewhip
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Registered: 03/11/2003
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Loc: Idaho
I suppose the reason that I am looking at this from the standpoint of a possible hardware failure is that a couple of days agow I realized that before this last fall semister I was preparing my car for yet another semister of commuting to and from school. One of the things that I had done was install a larger transmission cooler. to do this I had to fab a bracket. I had decided to weld it together while it was bolted to the car. well.....this is where the problem most lilely occured if it is a hardware failure.

after re-assembling the car I went to start it. it caughed and sputtered and refused to start. (this was odd because it ran fine when I pulled it into the driveway) After some initial troubleshooting I removed the cars ECU and did a visual inspection of the ECU's components. I was supprised to find one vary cooked (burnt) board. The welder back fed through the cars chassis and did a number on the ecu. Fortunatly I had a spare on the shelf from one of my old cars.

I am worried that the possibility of damage having been done to my empeg could be a reality.. I had suspected nothing because when I checked to see if it worked after cooking my cars ECU it opperated perfectly. However the first time I went to plug it into my network at home the ethernet did not work. I am hoping that it is simply a setting or some other software related thing. however I do need to try to look at the possible hardware side of this problem. I did a visual inspection of the players board however it appears to look okay.

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#244525 - 31/12/2004 11:28 Re: No longer works on my network can anyone help!! [Re: natewhip]
schofiel
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Well, that says it all...
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