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#255572 - 06/05/2005 12:42 Is there ever going to be fixed firmware?
tman
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
Can somebody at Rio actually do the firmware properly and make it timeout and shut off if it can't read the HD? At the moment it'll just go tick tick tick until the battery runs flat if you don't happen to have a 6 foot pin handy to reset it with. The backlight doesn't turn off when this happens as well so the entire Karma gets quite warm.

It's exceptionally annoying for it to lock up like this. The crap Hitachi HD inside is incredibly sensitive to any movement and will cause the Karma to lock up frequently. This is in addition to the other failure where it just refuses to start up again unless you smack it particularly hard to unstick the heads/motor/whatever inside the HD.

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#255573 - 06/05/2005 13:04 Re: Is there ever going to be fixed firmware? [Re: tman]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 30543
Loc: Seattle, WA
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At the moment it'll just go tick tick tick until the battery runs flat

Or the stepper motor in the hard disk burns out.

Does the "thwack" work during the tick tick tick phase if you don't have a paper clip?
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#255574 - 06/05/2005 13:07 Re: Is there ever going to be fixed firmware? [Re: tfabris]
tman
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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At the moment it'll just go tick tick tick until the battery runs flat

Or the stepper motor in the hard disk burns out.

The first Karma I had died because it went tick tick tick until the battery ran flat because I wouldn't reset it. I didn't know the hit the back hard procedure at the time so that may have fixed it.

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Does the "thwack" work during the tick tick tick phase if you don't have a paper clip?

It didn't when I just tried it now but I might not have hit it hard enough. People give you funny looks when you're bashing a MP3 player in public

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#255575 - 06/05/2005 13:22 Re: Is there ever going to be fixed firmware? [Re: tfabris]
eliceo
enthusiast

Registered: 18/02/2002
Posts: 335
Everytime mine gets stuck like that hitting it doesnt ever seem to help. Maybe im not hitting hard enough ( ive hit it pretty hard) or maybe its just technique.

As a solution I keep a paper clip in my wallet just in case.

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#255576 - 06/05/2005 14:00 Re: Is there ever going to be fixed firmware? [Re: eliceo]
tman
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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As a solution I keep a paper clip in my wallet just in case.

I did as well but I keep losing the clip for some reason.

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#255577 - 15/05/2005 16:50 Re: Is there ever going to be fixed firmware? [Re: tman]
oliver
addict

Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
You have to hit it quite hard. In the lower left corner (the volumn button/lock switch side) but at the bottom corner of the player.

It took me 4 days to get my harddrive unlocked, each day i'd hit it harder and on a different corner, of course the it was the last day, last corner that actually fixed the issue.

I was really shocked with exacly how hard I needed to smack it. It would be nice if we'd get some new firmware, or maybe even a karma2. Things have been way to quite on the karma front.
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