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#3098 - 09/08/1999 10:46 Playlist and organization
duranike
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Registered: 20/06/1999
Posts: 84
Im sure this has been answered a million times but...
What kind of file extension is going to be used for the empeg playlist? .nu? If something else, is it availble now to the public so one can begin making thier playlist. And, its the title in the tag id, NOT the filename which decides the name of the song right?

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#3099 - 09/08/1999 11:43 Re: Playlist and organization [Re: duranike]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
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Loc: Palo Alto, CA
There is no file extension for an empeg playlist - the empeg doesn't use "files" to store music (well, it does, but it's treated in a database sort of way). At the moment you can't prepare playlists without an empeg and the software, but we're planning to put m3u import facilities in when we've got time.

Building playlists is just a matter of dropping tunes in from either your local storage, or from other places in the empeg database (eg, other playlists, etc).

Unfortunately, as the entire database is stored on the unit NOT the PC (which is convenient if you dock your empeg with a friend's PC, you get to see *your* database, not theirs), emplode is rather boring and unfunctional without an empeg connected :)

Hugo



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#3100 - 09/08/1999 19:42 Re: Playlist and organization [Re: altman]
duranike
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Registered: 20/06/1999
Posts: 84
Ok, so i can make playlist through let say winamp and then import them on my empeg? What will the advantages be of using your type of playlist? Is it possible to convert the winamp playlist to your type of playlist?

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#3101 - 30/08/1999 10:36 Re: Playlist and organization [Re: altman]
raphael
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Registered: 09/06/1999
Posts: 33
Loc: Austria

I know, that you guys are quite busy at the moment,
but since you support open development ...

I have a problem:

I can't wait for (the;) windows software to get stable,
so I want to know how to put the sz/rzed empegs in the
database, so I can listen to them.

Thanks a lot.


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#3102 - 30/08/1999 16:52 Re: Playlist and organization [Re: raphael]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
What are your problems with the Windows software ? When I have had problems with emplode I have reported them and Mike has very promptly provided new versions of emplode that fix them.


Are you on the latest version ?

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#3103 - 30/08/1999 18:11 Re: Playlist and organization [Re: andy]
raphael
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Registered: 09/06/1999
Posts: 33
Loc: Austria
yes, i am on the latest version, but the serial connection seemed to hang
sometimes. btw. What are the parameters for the serial port in the system control panel? 8n1? flow control? fifo buffers?

now that I found out, that my friends PC (i don't have windoze) has an USB port
too, i don't have any troubles, besides random hangs (while editing playlists)
and no dispatch calls while uploading mp3s.



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#3104 - 31/08/1999 16:48 Re: Playlist and organization [Re: duranike]
kytopropylene
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Registered: 10/08/1999
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I also have a playlist related question.

Can a song be assigned to more than one playlist?


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#3105 - 01/09/1999 03:10 Re: Playlist and organization [Re: kytopropylene]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
Yes, songs can be in more than one playlists - playlists can even be in more than one playlist (it works hierarchically).

When you remove a song from a playlist, it decrements the "reference count" (ie, the number of times that song is referred to in the various playlists on the empeg) - when this gets to zero, the song is removed from the empeg at the next synchronise.

Hugo



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#3106 - 05/09/1999 13:32 Re: Playlist and organization [Re: altman]
raphael
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Registered: 09/06/1999
Posts: 33
Loc: Austria
Hierachical playlists don't seem to work in beta6. One can build them in emplode, but the empeg
doesn't let me select a sub playlist when I select a meta playlist.

Why haven't you organized the playlists with directories on the radio?
Who needs playlist properties (other than it's name) anyway? (one could implement them with a special file in that directory). Then I'd have written a program, that scans the mpeg directory tree for updates and stores the playlists and mp3 IDs in a database.

That way, one could mount (SMB or NFS) the empeg disk, ftp, rcp or sz files up, and at startup, the player checks if a timestamp in that tree changed and updates it's database accordingly.


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