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#32713 - 15/06/2001 14:53 S.M.A.R.T. hard drive monitoring
drakino
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
I don't think I have seen this anywhere yet, but I'd like to request S.M.A.R.T. monitoring to be added, to possibly help indicate any possible hard drive problems. Idealially it would spit a message on screen if something serious happened, or an alert could be displayed in emplode on a sync attempt.

(ah ha, I think I finally thought of one that Tony can't respond with 1.1 as the answer )


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#32714 - 16/06/2001 11:55 Re: S.M.A.R.T. hard drive monitoring [Re: drakino]
drakino
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
Just to add to this, http://csl.cse.ucsc.edu/smart.shtml has a S.M.A.R.T. monitoring package for Linux, as well as links to other information. I'll look into adding this for now as a hack.


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#32715 - 26/01/2003 15:00 Re: S.M.A.R.T. hard drive monitoring [Re: drakino]
image
old hand

Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
sorry for raising the dead, did this ever get implemented? can someone compile it to ARM? my friend's hard drive recently crashed w/o a backup, and it would give me peace of mind that my mp3s are safe on the empeg.

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#32716 - 26/01/2003 16:47 Re: S.M.A.R.T. hard drive monitoring [Re: drakino]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14478
Loc: Canada
Most of this could be done with a shell script, since the SMART values and thresholds are available through my /proc/ide/hd?/smart_* interface.

Apart from the shell script, one needs to have the kernel (Hijack?) issue the command to the drive to tell it to turn on SMART monitoring internally.

Easy stuff.

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#32717 - 27/01/2003 16:05 Re: S.M.A.R.T. hard drive monitoring [Re: mlord]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Apparently, the reason SMART never caught on is because it doesn't end up helping much. It was discovered after it was implemented that most hard drive failures are sudden, with no particular warning. (This is all based on hearsay and reports, however.)

Which is not to say that it's useless, but it's hardly the panacea that it seems like it ought to be.
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Bitt Faulk

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#32718 - 27/01/2003 17:37 Re: S.M.A.R.T. hard drive monitoring [Re: wfaulk]
tman
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
Every prebuilt system I've come across in the last few years has actually had SMART monitoring turned off in the BIOS.
The only time I've ever even see a warning about the SMART values exceeding the preset thresholds was in a laptop. The HD was on the way out as the laptop had been subjected to quite a few knocks and had been dropped a few times whilst it was on.

- Trevor

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#32719 - 28/01/2003 14:47 Re: S.M.A.R.T. hard drive monitoring [Re: wfaulk]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14478
Loc: Canada
About the only really useful measure I know of from SMART would be the drive temperature, available as a "vendor-specific" field in some drives from IBM, and possibly others.

-ml

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#32720 - 29/01/2003 07:23 Re: S.M.A.R.T. hard drive monitoring [Re: tman]
image
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Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
i've actually come across some dell machines that has SMART monitoring software pre-loaded. happened to get warnings one. the three days later, the hdd crashed on it.

the next time another computer gave a warning, i reacted quickly, and ghosted the drive. turns out that it caught one sector that became corrupt.

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#32721 - 04/02/2003 22:12 Re: S.M.A.R.T. hard drive monitoring [Re: image]
foxtrot_xray
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Registered: 03/03/2002
Posts: 687
Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
In reply to:


i've actually come across some dell machines that has SMART monitoring software pre-loaded. happened to get warnings one. the three days later, the hdd crashed on it.



The one time I tried to use a SMART monitoring program, my HD crashed, and I had to reload everything anyways. (No joke!)

Me.
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Mike 'Fox' Morrey 128BPM@124MPH. Love it! 2002 BRG Mini Cooper

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#32722 - 05/02/2003 04:23 Re: S.M.A.R.T. hard drive monitoring [Re: foxtrot_xray]
tman
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
Not much of an early warning system then!

"SMART thresholds exceeded. Your HD is going to crash in 1 second. Please backup everything NOW! Too late..."

- Trevor

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