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#35785 - 06/08/2001 06:28 Tuner update
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
I just got an update from the factory. The part causing the production delay (an antenna connector) was shipped very late, causing all sorts of scheduling problems. The modules have been partially constructed up to the point at which this component is required.

It is expected that final assembly will happen this week, and a team have been scheduled to work Saturday to expedite this.

That's as much information as I have right now.

Rob




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#35786 - 06/08/2001 06:56 Re: Tuner update [Re: rob]
edwin
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Registered: 26/09/2000
Posts: 194
Loc: Druten, The Netherlands
Thanx for the update!

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#35787 - 06/08/2001 07:18 Re: Tuner update [Re: rob]
omarkhayyam
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Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 71
Loc: Chicago
Yea, thanks for keeping us posted Rob!

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Edited by omarkhayyam on 06/08/01 03:19 PM.

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#35788 - 06/08/2001 08:02 Re: Tuner update [Re: rob]
Dignan
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
This is good news! But please tell us poor Americans, is anything being done by SB to get the store working by the time the modules ship? I doubt that's an unreasonable request. A company like this has got to be crazy if it's opposed to getting my $100.

Just my $100.02

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#35789 - 06/08/2001 08:06 Re: Tuner update [Re: Dignan]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Yes.


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#35790 - 06/08/2001 08:13 Re: Tuner update [Re: rob]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
WOOHOO!

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#35791 - 06/08/2001 14:15 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: rob]
kazama
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Registered: 11/11/2000
Posts: 202
Loc: Boston, MA
Will Oreos help you guys work faster?


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#35792 - 06/08/2001 14:23 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: kazama]
muzza
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Registered: 21/07/1999
Posts: 1765
Loc: Brisbane, Queensland, Australi...
Do you guys have Tim Tams? chocolate filled chocolate biscuit with chocolate coating. Or you can get them in 'double dipped'.
The best part is biting off opposite corners, dipping it into a fresh cup of hot coffee and sucking up the coffee like a straw. Then eating the coffee infused Tim Tam in one go.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


well, If it means we get the tuners sooner or the web site fixed we can ship a few over.

Oh yeah, thanks for the update, Rob.

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#35793 - 06/08/2001 18:46 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: muzza]
rjlov
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Registered: 16/12/1999
Posts: 188
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
I don't think they have TimTams in England, because my sister always gets us to send her some. I'm sure there'd be specialty shops somewhere that would import them, though.

The best part is biting off...

Personally, I find that a waste of a good TimTam. Sure, it's yummy, but Tim Tams are nice enough anyway. I prefer chocolate TeddyBears for sucking up coffee.

Richard.



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#35794 - 07/08/2001 12:52 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: rjlov]
srhodes
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Registered: 30/01/2000
Posts: 262
Loc: Derbyshire, UK
I noticed that Sainsbury's have something called 'Chocolate Os' which look something like I think Oreos look like.

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#35795 - 07/08/2001 12:55 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: srhodes]
smu
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Registered: 30/07/2000
Posts: 879
Loc: Germany (Ruhrgebiet)
Damn.

I'm really getting curious now. Though I spent a lot of time in the US some years ago (even got around to play football on a highschool team), I never saw or tasted any oreos. Is there any volunteer who would send me some? I would pay up for it through paypal.

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#35796 - 07/08/2001 13:08 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: srhodes]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
I noticed that Sainsbury's have something called 'Chocolate Os' which look something like I think Oreos look like.

Won't do.

Oreos have a very specific smell, texture, and flavor that I haven't seen duplicated anywhere else.

Even here in the US, there are a lot of "generic" cookies that imitate the style of Oreo, but somehow don't quite match them exactly. For instance, the Sunshine company made a cookie called "Hydrox" which looks like an Oreo, and tastes something like an Oreo, but isn't.

The other thing you need to know is that Oreos must, without fail, be absolutely fresh to be any good. The package must be fresh from the store, and freshly opened. Oreos that have spent time in a cookie jar with other stale cookies should be considered poisonously contaminated and should be discarded. (I've heard that some people prefer the taste and texture of stale Oreos, but I can only conclude that they are slack-jawed, mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging troglodytes who can't possibly understand the finer points in life.)

Additionally, Oreos must be eaten with a big glass of ice cold milk to be enjoyed properly. There can be no substitute.

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#35797 - 07/08/2001 13:26 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: tfabris]
srhodes
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Registered: 30/01/2000
Posts: 262
Loc: Derbyshire, UK
In reply to:

Additionally, Oreos must be eaten with a big glass of ice cold milk to be enjoyed properly. There can be no substitute



Apologies, I hadn't realised what a serious business Oreo eating was. Sounds like you're having the recommended dose of calcium in your Oreo diet.

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#35798 - 07/08/2001 16:49 Re: Tuner update [Re: rob]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5543
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
Yes.

Boy, don't you just hate it when he goes off the deep end and inundates us with excessive verbosity like that?

tanstaafl.

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#35799 - 07/08/2001 17:03 Re: Tuner update [Re: tanstaafl.]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Quite.


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#35800 - 08/08/2001 08:00 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: tfabris]
omarkhayyam
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Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 71
Loc: Chicago
I don't know, I think he was just giving Oreo consumption the serious attention that it deserves .

I agree with tony though, sven. Oreos must be fresh, must be consumed with ice cold, 2% milk, and you must try them. They are very tasty, and imitation Oreos never taste quite right.

-Adam

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#35801 - 08/08/2001 08:39 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: omarkhayyam]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5682
Loc: London, UK
I'm gonna sound dense, but what's "2% milk"?


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#35802 - 08/08/2001 09:33 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: Roger]
Tim
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Registered: 25/04/2000
Posts: 1522
Loc: Arizona
2% is the fat content of the milk (look for the blue label ). We have LowFat (2%), Whole (lots of fat), no-fat, and skim milk. Then you add in the assortment of goat milk, etc.

Makes it easier to just drink beer...


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#35803 - 08/08/2001 09:36 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: Tim]
cwillenbrock
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Registered: 30/12/2000
Posts: 249
Loc: Dover, NJ
Makes it easier to just drink beer...

Perhaps, but beer and Oreos don't go quite as well together.

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#35804 - 08/08/2001 10:33 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: Tim]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5682
Loc: London, UK
Ah. When I was a kid, the milk bottles had colour-coded foil tops. Gold was full-cream, silver was normal, and then there was blue and red. One of them was for skimmed, one for semi-skimmed. I don't remember which was which.

Occasionally, birds would peck through the foil top if you didn't bring the milk in first thing in the morning.

Nowadays, the cartons in the supermarket just say "skimmed" and "semi-skimmed". I don't recall what the full-fat ones are called these days.

I've no idea what the fat percentages are.


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#35805 - 08/08/2001 10:52 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: Tim]
kazama
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Registered: 11/11/2000
Posts: 202
Loc: Boston, MA
look for the blue label

Not nessisarily true. Where I live, blue labels are for 1% milk and Green is for 2% milk. It changes region to region so YMMV.

Greg


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#35806 - 08/08/2001 13:18 Re: Tuner update (Oreos? Milk!) [Re: omarkhayyam]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
I agree with tony though, sven. Oreos must be fresh, must be consumed with ice cold, 2% milk, and you must try them.

Now, I wouldn't know about Oreos, but when it comes to milk, I am quite particular: it must contain at least 3% milk fat (local full-fat standard is 3.2%, the range in stores being from 0.1% to 4.5%), and must not under any circumstances be sterilized (mild pasteurization is OK if absolutely necessary, as is homogenization). Such milk has the same distinct mildly sourish smell as it had when it left cow (and of course keeps in the fridge two, at most three days). It is increasingly difficult to find such milk even here (only two or three small farms produce and pack it), as most consumers prefer more aggresively pasteurized or sterilized brands that keep longer, but have smell destroyed and taste changed. I particularly hate taste of caramelized lactose traces of which one can find in sterilized milk, the kind that keeps for months at room temperature. This is the food item I miss the most when abroad.


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Zagreb, Croatia
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#35807 - 08/08/2001 15:27 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: omarkhayyam]
smu
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Registered: 30/07/2000
Posts: 879
Loc: Germany (Ruhrgebiet)
I agree with tony though, sven. Oreos must be fresh, must be consumed with ice cold, 2% milk

Oh well, I guess they should still be okay after the travel from the US to Germany (which usually takes 3 business days, the opposite direction is another story), at least if sent in an unopened package. I would want the milk to be sent along with them though.

cu,
sven

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#35808 - 08/08/2001 15:41 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: smu]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
You guys are making me crazy. I actually haven't had any Oreos in my house for a long time, as I'm trying to lose weight. I might just break down and buy some on the way home tonight.

And for those overseas who are thinking of getting them shipped: Don't bother. They are a commodity item, a junk food. They're not some sort of gourmet cookie, they're just a different way of packaging sugar for us Yanks to consume. They are, however, hideously addictive and their unique flavor is so well-known as to be a part of our collective culture.

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#35809 - 08/08/2001 21:00 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: tfabris]
synergy
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Registered: 20/02/2001
Posts: 345
What's even worse.... I've dropped 50+ lbs in fat and added back on about 15lbs in muscle over the last 10 months... I haven't even begun to think about sweets or much of anything besides making sure I get enough Protein.

I'm thinking about grabbing the chocolate dipped Oreo's...


THAT, my friends... is just plain sad.




And on another note, I just finished upgrading my player with an additional 30G drive (from 12).... That was probably the hardest warranty sticker I've ever had to ignore, but honestly, it was worth it if for no other reason than to see the layout on the board in person. This machine truely is a very nice work of art, from the PCB layout to the HD chassis. Truely, very well done. And thankfully, everything went fine doing the upgrade. I lost my custom kernel (of course, now that I think about it.. It's stored in the flash ram that you built the builder image with.. NOT on the HD), but that was easily replaced. Caused me a bit of a panic until I realized what had happened... I've got too many experiences with Linux boxes eating their bootloader and then giving you hell rebuilding... I didn't even want to think about the recovery on this guy... I didn't see the Floppy connector inside.




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#35810 - 09/08/2001 02:15 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: tfabris]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5682
Loc: London, UK
This seemed relevant .

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#35811 - 09/08/2001 04:00 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: synergy]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

Actually, the chocolate covered oreo concept brings up some rather interesting thoughts.

First, they (Nabisco) have started tampering with oreos and making a chocolate creme (misspelling intentional, due to legal reasons*) oreo. Scary. I have also seen blue creme for certain holidays...

Secondly, there is a chocolate factory near where I work. They specialize in wholesale production of chocolate for resale in a lot of small specialty stores. Everything they do is very fresh because it is made right there in the factory, and needs to stand up to very high quality standards. They have won awards for some of their work...

They make chocolate covered oreos, and they ship... (I don't know about shipping outside the US, but they do ship.) Birnn Chocolates... If anyone is interested in ordering some, give them a call. Write me for the phone number...

Paul

* - In order to use the term "cream" in the US, it must contain at least 6% (I think) milk fat. So everyone gets around it with creative spellings of cream. The same thing happens with "cheese". Most stuff you buy off the shelf is declared a "cheese food" because there is little or no real cheese in it.

Paul G.
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#35812 - 09/08/2001 09:36 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: Roger]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
ROFL! Thanks for that one.

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#35813 - 10/08/2001 02:22 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: pgrzelak]
Geoff
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Registered: 21/08/1999
Posts: 381
Loc: Northern Ireland
All this talk over the last few days about Oreos was making me a bit annoyed about living on the 'right' side of the Atlantic since I was missing out on all the fun. The best I could claim was that when I was in Canada a year or so ago I had some Oreo ice cream (which was rather agreeable )

Anyway, on the way home from work yesterday, I stopped for petrol (gasoline) and what did I see on my way through the door of the filling station but little 6-packs of Oreos!!! In Portadown of all places!!! I bought a little packet and tried one on the way home, thinking "I must keep some of these until I can get a glass of ice cold milk" Unfortunately, the 6 biscuits didn't last the 10 mile journey home so I'll have to hope they get some more... there were only about 3 packs left in the shop when I was there.

(I have to say they reminded me a bit of 'Bourbon' biscuits, except they have chocolate 'creme', and the Oreos were much nicer... do chocolate bourbons exist anywhere outside of UK biscuit tins???)

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#35814 - 10/08/2001 03:04 Re: Tuner update (Oreos?) [Re: Tim]
borislav
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Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 420
Loc: Sunnyvale, CA, USA
We have LowFat (2%), Whole (lots of fat), no-fat, and skim milk. Then you add in the assortment of goat milk, etc.

What I found strange when I moved to the US was that it was damn near impossible to buy just plain milk. The full-fat one almost always has vitamin D added.

Borislav



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