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#36893 - 21/08/2001 10:08 small but urgent 2.0 wish
smu
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Registered: 30/07/2000
Posts: 879
Loc: Germany (Ruhrgebiet)
Hi.

This is related to my post and the subsequent thread in the programmer section:

I would really appreciate if emplode would allow the upload of a specific file type (let's say ".addon" files) to the empeg that are automatically stored in a special, FID-only "playlist". That "playlist" should be completely ignored by the player itself, other than during sync/up-/download using emptool/emplode.

Currently, addons would have to be named ".MP3", added to some playlist, uploaded to the empeg, then manually moved away from the .../fids directory...
What I propose is to
  1. let emplode upload ".addon" files to a special addon-pseudo-playlist
  2. let the player ignore this playlist when building its binary music database
  3. allow custom init/installer scripts to remove those files from that special playlist after installation, without invalidating the music database that was built during sync.
This should be pretty easy to implement, and would help us 3rd party developers a lot when it comes to installation and update of custom software. The special playlist wouldn't even be necessary if the player would simply ignore the .addon files after upload, for example by assigning *2 fids to them.

cu,
sven

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#36894 - 22/08/2001 03:24 Re: small but urgent 2.0 wish [Re: smu]
borislav
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Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 420
Loc: Sunnyvale, CA, USA
I would really appreciate if emplode would allow the upload of a specific file type (let's say ".addon" files)

To generalize this a bit, emplode can allow the user to specify a list of additional extentions allowed for upload. This will be useful for addon files, the file taxi app, and something else I have in mind that I'm not letting out yet.

Borislav


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#36895 - 22/08/2001 09:13 Re: small but urgent 2.0 wish [Re: borislav]
smu
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Registered: 30/07/2000
Posts: 879
Loc: Germany (Ruhrgebiet)
Hi Borislav.

Well, I think adding the capability to upload one additional file type is much easier than to allow the upload of many, user defined types. Though I think this would be nice, I guess that it would certainly be a post 2.0 feature.
Also, this is going in the direction of a defined interface for 3rd party software anyway, and the guys@empeg promised such a thing long time ago (without any specific time line given though). I really hoped that a plugin-API for both emplode and the player would come up with 2.0, and I'm still hoping this will come up in the not too far future.

cu,
sven

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#36896 - 22/08/2001 16:10 Re: small but urgent 2.0 wish [Re: smu]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
Essentially, v2.0 is ready. We need to forward-port the tuner stuff from v1.03, and chase down a bunch of bugs, but the plan is to knock this out as soon as possible -- you guys have been kept waiting for long enough.

Hence, it's in feature-freeze. Anything suggested here will be considered for inclusion, but if the implementation is non-trivial, it'll probably get bumped to v3.0.


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#36897 - 23/08/2001 18:20 Re: small but urgent 2.0 wish [Re: Roger]
muzza
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Registered: 21/07/1999
Posts: 1765
Loc: Brisbane, Queensland, Australi...
God no! What do you mean v3.0!!! don't go there, all versions of '3' have flopped. except maybe windows 3 but that was strictly 3.1 which really took off.

Run for the hills. don't do the v3.0 thing!!

10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1


sorry, i've calmed down now

Good to hear that it is more on the way.


Murray 06000047
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#36898 - 24/08/2001 03:24 Re: small but urgent 2.0 wish [Re: muzza]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
In fact, between 2.0 and 3.0 we will be releasing periodic public betas (just like the good old days) so if 3.0 dies horribly you can at least go back to 3.0-Beta87C

Rob



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#36899 - 24/08/2001 04:59 Re: small but urgent 2.0 wish [Re: rob]
edwin
member

Registered: 26/09/2000
Posts: 194
Loc: Druten, The Netherlands
periodic public betas

Jipeee! Then I can really 'use' my empeg, instead of.... uh... only listening to MP3s

Edwin de Vaan
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#36900 - 27/08/2001 17:35 Re: small but urgent 2.0 wish [Re: Roger]
hoagy
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Registered: 19/08/1999
Posts: 116
Loc: Silicon Valley
>... but the plan is to knock this out as soon as possible -- you guys have been kept waiting for long enough.

Amen! But the Empeg experience is all about patience. 1.5 years on a waiting list, another year for tuner, who knows how long for VR.

If it helps knock things out faster, when a product has frequent updates, the customer gets very excited about this. Take the Audiotron as an example. It's a simple box, difficult to use, and buggy. But there's a lot of excitement about it because every month you have an update with new features. That sells many units.

My friends ask me if I've done anything to my Empeg or if there's anything new. "No" is the only answer I have been able to give for a year.

I'm really looking forward to 2.0.. get to it guys, you're doing great!

-Ryan.



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