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#37347 - 28/08/2001 10:19 Just got my tuner!
jwtadmin
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Registered: 05/09/2000
Posts: 210
Loc: Ipswich, MA
Fed Ex just arrived with My tuner!

Sonic Blue still has it pending shipment!

Funny there is no Rio logo on it at all.

SN just in case we are tracking is:

2811700004099

I was going to do the whole take a picture of the box and contents, but I'm going out to put it in my car!

John

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#37348 - 28/08/2001 11:03 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: jwtadmin]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Congratulations

Let us know how the install goes..

Rob



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#37349 - 28/08/2001 11:20 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: rob]
jwtadmin
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Registered: 05/09/2000
Posts: 210
Loc: Ipswich, MA
Installed in about 5 min.

I left the sled in place.

During my Empeg install last year, I manuvered the antenna wire and the tuner plug so that they would be acessable through the hole in the sled.

It was a bit tight working in the sled but I was able to get the plugs connected.

Fired it up and it worked perfectly!
Now I just need to find my remote!

One feature that would be nice is auto preset loading. My home reciever has the ability to scan the whole FM range and automaticaly set all of the presets to the strongest signals.

Thanks for all of your efforts to bring this to us!!!

John T.

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#37350 - 28/08/2001 11:22 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: jwtadmin]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
I noticed John playing around with station scanning a while ago - I don't know if that will become a 2.0 feature though.

Rob



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#37351 - 28/08/2001 13:50 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: jwtadmin]
wvloon
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Registered: 13/08/2000
Posts: 82
Loc: Near Arnhem, Netherlands
Wow, now we're sure they do actually exist I'm sure it was worth the (extended) wait.

[jealous mode]
Just a bit curious about your queue number since my MK2 serial is lower than yours....
[/jealous mode]

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#37352 - 28/08/2001 14:01 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: jwtadmin]
SuperQ
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Registered: 13/06/2000
Posts: 429
Loc: Berlin, DE
I got word from my roomie that mine has arrived as well.. I should have it installed tonight.. will try and take more pictures this time... w00t!*@%

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#37353 - 28/08/2001 14:12 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: jwtadmin]
CruzThs
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Registered: 19/01/2001
Posts: 145
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
Got mine this morning. However I won't have time to install it until this weekend.


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#37354 - 28/08/2001 18:35 Install Pr0n [Re: jwtadmin]
SuperQ
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Registered: 13/06/2000
Posts: 429
Loc: Berlin, DE
hey, i just finished installing the tuner module, it was no big deal, and I got to fix a dashboard rattle. I tooks some install pr0n.. have fun tfabris ;)

http://ben.nerp.net/pix/empeg/

img_*.jpg are the files from the tuner, others are just other pics of the empeg's insides.

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#37355 - 28/08/2001 20:56 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: jwtadmin]
kazama
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Registered: 11/11/2000
Posts: 202
Loc: Boston, MA
Alas no tuner yet but I do have this so as long as FedEx doesn't break down, a couple of days:

Dear Greg:

Your order from the SONICblue eStore has been shipped and your credit card has been charged.

Product Name Qty Ordered Qty Shipped Price
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Rio Car Tuner 1 1 $ 99.95
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Shipping: $ 3.95
Total: $ 103.90




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#37356 - 29/08/2001 00:45 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: SuperQ]
Lemmy
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Registered: 03/12/1999
Posts: 118
Loc: Germany
Dunno nuthin bout my one yet...
But what I know is that the additional 20Gig HD arrived yesterday and as I didn't think the shop would be that fast I didn't leave my wife enough $$ to accept it... Woah! less than 24 hours!!! E-commerce is working!


bye
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#37357 - 29/08/2001 03:46 Re: Install Pr0n [Re: SuperQ]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
It's interesting that the radio station you were listening to was broadcasting RDS packets - but without any data.

Rob



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#37358 - 29/08/2001 17:29 Re: OT RDS display [Re: rob]
muzza
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Registered: 21/07/1999
Posts: 1765
Loc: Brisbane, Queensland, Australi...
What is the strangest RDS Message your radio station displays?

JJJ in Australia has If pain persists consult your doctor

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#37359 - 29/08/2001 18:40 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: jwtadmin]
flashman
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Registered: 20/09/2000
Posts: 133
Loc: U.S.
Got mine.....
Painless install!!! Sweet!!!
My only problems were the manual refers to buttons on the remote that don't exist as I have the old style Kenwood remote.
So it was frustrating figuring out which button was what by trial and error.

Only two more questions....
1. When I press the DNPP button (visual chooser) I get this faint line that appears across the screen.. ???
Which leads me to my next question.....

2. How do I switch to Visuals while listening to the Radio?????
Please, Please tell me you guys did not allow for visuals and info screen switching to occur.
The RDS info is nice and i like it but, I want to be able to see my wonderfull Funnel Web while listening to the Radio.

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#37360 - 29/08/2001 22:01 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: jwtadmin]
Ruffles
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Registered: 29/03/2000
Posts: 106
Loc: Seattle, WA
I just finished installing my Tuner and it works great. The only thing I would like to see is some type of tab with a hole in it to make it easier to secure with zip ties. The signal strength meter works great and helped me trouble shoot a loose attenna ground. I also get a faint blue line when I hold down the menu button. I figured this was just to indicate that the player is in "enter preset" mode. I'm very happy with it.




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#37361 - 29/08/2001 22:24 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: Ruffles]
Kit
journeyman

Registered: 03/10/2000
Posts: 69
Loc: San Diego, CA US
So, my remote is broken (support is already shipping me a new one), but until this arrives is there a way to get into the tuner preset config? I couldn't find a way to do this without the remote, making the tuner difficult to navigate.

Other than that install with a breeze.

-Kit

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#37362 - 30/08/2001 04:09 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: Lemmy]
Lemmy
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Registered: 03/12/1999
Posts: 118
Loc: Germany
done with installing 2nd HD.. the description in the FAQ area is very good...
but still no hints from my tuner??
Did empeg ship the MkII in order of serial numbers?


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#37363 - 30/08/2001 04:27 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: flashman]
Derek
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Registered: 16/08/1999
Posts: 453
Loc: NRW, Germany
As I understand it, software for driving the visuals while listening to the radio doesn't exist yet. The problem there is feeding the signal back into the CPU. In the Mk1 this is impossible, but the Mk2 has an ADC, so it might be possible on the Mk2. I think it is only a single channel ADC though - the guys@empeg will have to fill you in properly on all of that.

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#37364 - 30/08/2001 04:52 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: Lemmy]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5682
Loc: London, UK
Did empeg ship the MkII in order of serial numbers?

If you mean the serial number of the mk2, in general, yes. The serial numbers were assigned in order of construction.

However, because the batch sizes were larger, which one you get out of a batch is fairly arbitrary, meaning that you might get a number higher than the next person.

Also, a small number were sent back for reengineering, but retained the earlier serial number.




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#37365 - 30/08/2001 05:34 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: Derek]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
It's stereo, but isn't hooked up yet. It won't make v2.0, but may make a later v2 release.

Hugo



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#37366 - 30/08/2001 11:36 Here's a picture [Re: Ruffles]
Ruffles
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Registered: 29/03/2000
Posts: 106
Loc: Seattle, WA
He is a pictue of the tunner in action. Looks like we get AM Stereo!



Attachments
36668-RioCar.jpg (80 downloads)


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#37367 - 30/08/2001 11:53 Re: Here's a picture [Re: Ruffles]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
See, I told you the tuner was great value!

Rob



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#37368 - 30/08/2001 12:58 Re: Here's a picture [Re: Ruffles]
jimhogan
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Registered: 06/10/1999
Posts: 2591
Loc: Seattle, WA, U.S.A.
Hmmm. I'm pretty sure I remember Rob and crew promising IBF (Integrated Bombast Filter) functionality under AM, but from your pic it looks like they're taking a different approach. The only thing I can guess is that they've implemented this by piping in-phase Rush to the Right Channel and out-of-phase Rush to the Left Channel, thus providing some kind of IBF emulation.

Nifty. How *do* they do it?

Jim

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#37369 - 30/08/2001 13:07 Re: Here's a picture [Re: rob]
Henno
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Registered: 15/07/1999
Posts: 568
Loc: Meije, Netherlands
Has shipping into Europe/RoW started yet?

Henno
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#37370 - 30/08/2001 21:25 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: jwtadmin]
JoMo25
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Registered: 23/07/2000
Posts: 48
I just found out that FedEx shipped my 2 tuners (one for each sled) yesterday, but the windy day yesterday must have blown my notice away!

I'm gonna pick them up tomorrow. Thank God I've got the extra day this weekend to install them!

I can't wait! I do miss the radio occassionally. I find I'm not keeping up with new music as well as I used to...


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#37371 - 30/08/2001 23:25 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: JoMo25]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
" I find I'm not keeping up with new music as well as I used to..."


are you sure that's a bad thing :-)


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#37372 - 31/08/2001 01:10 Re: Here's a picture [Re: Henno]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
No, they haven't arrived at Cambridge yet (as far as I know - I have a day off today).

I'll chase them up on Monday, but I don't think anyone's sitting on them at this stage.

Rob



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#37373 - 31/08/2001 07:55 Re: Install Pr0n [Re: rob]
SuperQ
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Registered: 13/06/2000
Posts: 429
Loc: Berlin, DE
I was trying to figure out that too.. I've only had one station show up with RDS, and there wasn't any data coming across that I could see.. I'm going to seriously play around with the tuner this weekend.. i've been moving into a new apartment so i have been driving around a pickup for 2 days.. wow was it wierd to go from a ford clutch to a VW. ;)

I noticed 2 things about the 1.3 software..

#1: the signal strength meter doesn't work
#2: the AM radio preformance sucks.. but I'm going to check the install to make sure it's not my fault.



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#37374 - 31/08/2001 08:14 Re: Install Pr0n [Re: SuperQ]
trevorp
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Registered: 08/06/2000
Posts: 144
Loc: Ft Lauderdale, FL
Hmm, my signal strength meter works great. The big local stations always show as full strength (they should), but the smaller stations or the ones that are further away show lower strength, and even fluctuate while driving around.

My AM reception seems to works fine too, but there are VERY few decent stations here to compare with.

-Trevor

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#37375 - 31/08/2001 09:30 Re: Install Pr0n [Re: SuperQ]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
Is your install in a VW? If so, AM will suck unless you feed power to the antenna. VW antennas (eg, passat, beetle, golf) have a powered antenna, with an amp in the base of it. You can get an antenna power adapter which can be wired to the antenna remote line on the tuner and all will be well.

Hugo



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#37376 - 31/08/2001 11:00 Re: Install Pr0n [Re: trevorp]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
Yeah, my signal strength meter works fine, and I get great AM radio performance. I think Hugo is right, he doesn't have power to his antenna booster. On my VW GTI, I used the amp remote line to power the antenna booster.

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#37377 - 31/08/2001 11:04 Re: Install Pr0n [Re: altman]
SuperQ
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Registered: 13/06/2000
Posts: 429
Loc: Berlin, DE
oh.. hugo, you rock.. i'll have to stop by the audio shop on the way home tonight.. arg.. it's such a pain to get to the tuner in the vw.. crapola. oh well

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#37378 - 31/08/2001 19:36 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: msaeger]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5543
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
" I find I'm not keeping up with new music as well as I used to..."

Yeah, I know what you mean. Only in my case.... well, Mozart hasn't had any new releases for more than 200 years, so I only need to check the radio now and then.

tanstaafl.

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#37379 - 31/08/2001 21:21 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: tanstaafl.]
rockstar
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Registered: 24/11/2000
Posts: 316
wasn't the tuner supposed to be like $50?


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#37380 - 01/09/2001 02:40 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: rockstar]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
Originally, yes, but that was for a FM only tuner - the same quality as the Mk1's tuner. We put a really high end tuner module into the AM/FM module, it's due to be used in the 2003 model year cars from a major US manufacturer :)

We also added stalk control, antenna control, etc.

Hugo



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#37381 - 01/09/2001 03:05 Re: Install Pr0n [Re: rob]
jwickis
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Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 658
Loc: India
I have one station in my area that uses RDS the RDS icon on the empeg comes & goes even though the station comes in signal wise pretty strong. The only data they give out is station ID no messages or the like.

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#37382 - 03/09/2001 11:18 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: altman]
SuperQ
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Registered: 13/06/2000
Posts: 429
Loc: Berlin, DE
Yes, i'll have to say.. I was _really_ impressed with the FM preformance of the tuner module, it seems to mute out portions of the signal that arn't coming in properly. even on the small 30k watt station it sounds decent.

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#37383 - 04/09/2001 10:24 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: SuperQ]
dewdman42
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Registered: 13/09/2000
Posts: 186
Does the audio signal coming from the tuner go through the Empeg's EQ?


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#37384 - 04/09/2001 10:27 Re: Just got my tuner! [Re: dewdman42]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Yes.

..or rather, the output goes through the EQ.

Edited by rob on 04/09/01 06:28 PM.


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