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#68860 - 08/02/2002 18:44 Poweroff submenu reboots
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I was playing with the poweroff submenu, scrolling through them. I decided to finally select the Now selection, and as it was scrolling the final way, the scrolling itself slowed down, and when I pressed the down button, it would not respond. I had to remove power. I just tried it again, and this time, the scrolling didn't slow down, but selecting the Now option didn't seem to do anything, but then the player rebooted, which may have been what happened before. In fact, now, every time I select Now from the poweroff submenu, it just reboots.
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#68861 - 08/02/2002 22:57 Re: Poweroff submenu reboots [Re: wfaulk]
hybrid8
carpal tunnel

Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
Confirmed. Mine also reboots when selecting Now. Not going into the sub-menu powers it down right away. I'm not sure why the NOW option is there at all. If you want to do it "now" then don't enter the sub menu.

Bruno
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#68862 - 08/02/2002 23:01 Re: Poweroff submenu reboots [Re: hybrid8]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
It makes sense because you could change your mind and backing out to do so seems kinda stupid. It's dumb that it's the default, though.
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#68863 - 08/02/2002 23:09 Re: Poweroff submenu reboots [Re: wfaulk]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
Why does backing out seem stupid? Holding down the UP button (to back out) also powers down the unit.

Bruno
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#68864 - 08/02/2002 23:19 Re: Poweroff submenu reboots [Re: hybrid8]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Okay, I exaggerate slightly. But, honestly, it's more natural to me, if I were in that position, to find the listed Now than to back out and reselect. And from a consistent UI standpoint, if you're going to have a submenu that lets you change what an option does, it should also contain the standard usage. But I'm certainly not going to fight over this one.

Selecting Off definitely shouldn't restart, though. I think we can agree on that.
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#68865 - 08/02/2002 23:34 Re: Poweroff submenu reboots [Re: wfaulk]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
Selecting Off definitely shouldn't restart, though. I think we can agree on that.

That depends. Are you looking for an argument?

The "now" option should definitely also not be the default, as you've mentioned. Of course, I really like the quick access from Hijack by using 4 on the remote. Even if it only allows increments of 30 minutes.

Bruno
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#68866 - 09/02/2002 03:51 Re: Poweroff submenu reboots [Re: wfaulk]
jbauer
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Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
Weird. I can't figure out how to bring up the power off submenu...

I tried it by holding down the top round button, with the menu, and all kinds of way with the remote. Do I need to enable this as an option somewhere?

- Jon

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#68867 - 09/02/2002 05:33 Re: Poweroff submenu reboots [Re: jbauer]
beaker
addict

Registered: 19/08/2000
Posts: 588
Loc: England
Err... Try the Bottom button not the Top. It works much better .
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#68868 - 09/02/2002 11:43 Re: Poweroff submenu reboots [Re: beaker]
jbauer
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Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
Sorry, what do you mean by try the bottom button? If I hold down the bottom button, it doesn't bring up a power down submenu...

- Jon

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#68869 - 09/02/2002 11:46 Re: Poweroff submenu reboots [Re: jbauer]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
If you hold down the bottom button while having the ``Power Off'' menu item selected, it brings up a menu for poweroff options. This is not apparently accessible through the long press of the top button, or in any other manner. If it still doesn't work, try installing 2.0beta11.
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#68870 - 09/02/2002 11:49 Re: Poweroff submenu reboots [Re: wfaulk]
jbauer
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Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
Aha. Ok, gotya now. This isn't really obvious...

- Thanx!
- Jon

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#68871 - 09/02/2002 11:54 Re: Poweroff submenu reboots [Re: wfaulk]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14478
Loc: Canada
Sure it is.. just remap it with Hijack!

-ml

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#68872 - 09/02/2002 12:11 Re: Poweroff submenu reboots [Re: jbauer]
tms13
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Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 1115
Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
Long presses on menu items are something good to know about. They are also useful in playlists/tunes (brings up replace/insert/append) and on the Playlists menu item itself (brings up your last selected playlist).
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