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#271470 - 05/12/2005 04:56 stripped screws on hard drive mount
Brandis stranger Registered: 30/03/2000 Posts: 32 Loc: Oklahoma, USA	I just cracked open my Empeg to see if there is a problem with the hard drive cables and all the screws on the sides that hold the shock mount in place are so worn out that the screwdriver cannot get a grip. I guess when I sent it in to support a few years ago they wore them down. Any suggestions to how I can get these out without damaging the player? _________________________ Chad MKIIa 30Gb Blue
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#271471 - 05/12/2005 05:12 Re: stripped screws on hard drive mount [Re: Brandis]
SonicSnoop addict Registered: 29/06/2002 Posts: 531 Loc: Triangle, VA	Have you tried using a pair of needle nose pliers and see if you can grip em by the sides of the heads? May be a pain but I have been able to get a few screws worn out like that this way.. _________________________ -D Modifying and Tweaking is a journey, not a destination................................ MKIIa : 60gig - 040103286 - Blue - v2 + PCATS tuner MKIIa : 20gig - 040103260 - Blue - v3a8 + Mark Lord Special Edition Cherry Dock
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#271472 - 05/12/2005 05:22 Re: stripped screws on hard drive mount [Re: SonicSnoop]
Brandis stranger Registered: 30/03/2000 Posts: 32 Loc: Oklahoma, USA	Quote: Have you tried using a pair of needle nose pliers .. Funny you should ask that.. I am actually looking for those right now to give it a try _________________________ Chad MKIIa 30Gb Blue
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#271473 - 05/12/2005 12:25 Re: stripped screws on hard drive mount [Re: Brandis]
schofiel carpal tunnel Registered: 25/06/1999 Posts: 2993 Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK	I vastly doubt that - new screws always go in during a service. Both myself and David replaced them as a matter of course with no charge! I'm not sure what you mean here: are the threads stripped (the screws just turn in the screw holes) or are the heads chewed up? If it's the former, you will need new sled support brackets with good threads. If it's the latter, you need pliers with 1cm jaws, and you can easily turn the screws by clamping onto what's left of the heads perpendicular to the casing. New screws are available. _________________________ One of the few remaining Mk1 owners... #00015
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#271474 - 05/12/2005 12:38 Re: stripped screws on hard drive mount [Re: schofiel]
SE_Sport_Driver carpal tunnel Registered: 05/01/2001 Posts: 4903 Loc: Detroit, MI USA	Quote: If it's the latter, you need pliers with 1cm jaws, and you can easily turn the screws by clamping onto what's left of the heads perpendicular to the casing. And you'll need to invest in the proper size Phillips screw driver! I beat up the screws on the outside of the empeg by using a #2 instead of a #1. _________________________ Brad B.
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#271475 - 05/12/2005 17:20 Re: stripped screws on hard drive mount [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
Robotic pooh-bah Registered: 06/04/2005 Posts: 2026 Loc: Seattle transplant	Quote: Quote: If it's the latter, you need pliers with 1cm jaws, and you can easily turn the screws by clamping onto what's left of the heads perpendicular to the casing. And you'll need to invest in the proper size Phillips screw driver! I beat up the screws on the outside of the empeg by using a #2 instead of a #1. Indeed. Good tools are always the road to a finer fix. Even with the best tools, though, good technique is required; with poor tools, even better technique. I read once about a 'one-time' method for removing screws with ruined heads. Mix up some 5 minute epoxy and glue your screwdriver into the screw-head. This takes up the missing volume and allows for better transfer of torque. I'm with the others, though- grab the proud-standing screw head with pliers. I'd even go so far as recommend some Vice-Grip style instead of needle nose, but it's just another idea to try. _________________________ 10101311 (20GB- backup empeg) 10101466 (2x60GB, Eutronix/GreenLights Blue) (Stolen!)
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#271476 - 05/12/2005 18:15 Re: stripped screws on hard drive mount [Re: SonicSnoop]
Brandis stranger Registered: 30/03/2000 Posts: 32 Loc: Oklahoma, USA	Well i tried with needle nose and regular pliers and it will not get a grip on those tiny screws. I do not own small channel locks but will see if I can borrow some. _________________________ Chad MKIIa 30Gb Blue
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#271477 - 05/12/2005 18:16 Re: stripped screws on hard drive mount [Re: Brandis]
schofiel carpal tunnel Registered: 25/06/1999 Posts: 2993 Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK	Needle nose is just useless. Conventional pliers are better. _________________________ One of the few remaining Mk1 owners... #00015
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#271478 - 05/12/2005 18:20 Re: stripped screws on hard drive mount [Re: schofiel]
Brandis stranger Registered: 30/03/2000 Posts: 32 Loc: Oklahoma, USA	Quote: I vastly doubt that - new screws always go in during a service. Both myself and David replaced them as a matter of course with no charge! Well I am not trying to point the finger at anyone. I am nothing but pleased with the service I got from David. It doesnt matter how they got this way really.. Quote: I'm not sure what you mean here: are the threads stripped (the screws just turn in the screw holes) or are the heads chewed up? Your right, I used the wrong terminalogy. They are not stripped, but chewed up so that there is nothing for a screwdriver to grip. Quote: If it's the former, you will need new sled support brackets with good threads. If it's the latter, you need pliers with 1cm jaws, and you can easily turn the screws by clamping onto what's left of the heads perpendicular to the casing. New screws are available. Yeah I am working on the pliers method no luck yet. Where do i get the scews from? _________________________ Chad MKIIa 30Gb Blue
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#271479 - 05/12/2005 21:19 Re: stripped screws on hard drive mount [Re: schofiel]
mlord carpal tunnel Registered: 29/08/2000 Posts: 14484 Loc: Canada	And these are even better for this kind of job! Cheers
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#271480 - 05/12/2005 21:37 Re: stripped screws on hard drive mount [Re: Brandis]
AndrewT old hand Registered: 16/02/2002 Posts: 867 Loc: Oxford, UK	If you have a fine blade hacksaw, you could carefully cut a slot for a flat-bladed screwdriver.
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#271481 - 05/12/2005 22:39 Re: stripped screws on hard drive mount [Re: mlord]
tman carpal tunnel Registered: 24/12/2001 Posts: 5528	Quote: And these are even better for this kind of job! Cool. I'm surprised that they're not more widely available.
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#271482 - 05/12/2005 22:40 Re: stripped screws on hard drive mount [Re: AndrewT]
tman carpal tunnel Registered: 24/12/2001 Posts: 5528	Quote: If you have a fine blade hacksaw, you could carefully cut a slot for a flat-bladed screwdriver. Just be careful with the fine metal particles. You'll probably get a few by clamping onto the screw with the pliers as well if you're not careful. You don't want it to short out anything on the PCB.
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#271483 - 06/12/2005 10:08 Re: stripped screws on hard drive mount [Re: Brandis]
schofiel carpal tunnel Registered: 25/06/1999 Posts: 2993 Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK	I have about 2 million of them here Mail me on [email protected] _________________________ One of the few remaining Mk1 owners... #00015
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#271484 - 07/12/2005 00:48 Re: stripped screws on hard drive mount [Re: schofiel]
tanstaafl. carpal tunnel Registered: 08/07/1999 Posts: 5543 Loc: Ajijic, Mexico	I have about 2 million of them here Rob, If I've told you once, I've told you a billion times: Stop exaggerating. :-) tanstaafl. _________________________ "There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch"
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