And Team Fortress 2, whatever happened to that?

After this long a development period, this better be a killer game. Unfortunately history has shown that this is mostly NOT the case (Daikatana anyone?)
I think this is mostly true, except in the case of Blizzard (who is in no way involved in DNF) who always seems to take forever but consistently puts out quality games (though I must admit, their graphics have never been spectacular). Other companies don’t seem to fare as well, however.

Closer to the original topic: I am wondering how "fun" Doom 3 is going to be. I hope it's more than just an exercise in showing off the newest video card. It may not matter anyway, as I haven’t had time to play anything recently and my video card is crying from neglect (or rather, the 3D parts are).
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Rome did not create a great empire by having meetings; they did it by killing all those who opposed them.