that did it! thanks everybody for the help
Mark, you might want to add to your site that you need to have the developer version installed (and maybe mention the whole "press q" thing for people like me) that and mentioning making the /usr/local then the /usr/local/bin directories should clear up any other problems that people have, also, at first i was a bit unsure of what i was supposed to be doing in the ftp client and what i was supposed to be doing in hypertermnal, once i figured those things out it was cake. so thanks again for all the help everybody, and thanks Mark for writing such a cool program!