Well they did it. 20 and 40GB announced today. 30GB and 15GB models removed from line up. The Karma is a much nicer unit technically. And feature-wise from a geek standpoint it is too. Is it as clean looking? No. Will it outsell the iPod? Don't think so. I don't know if any single company can catch Apple's iPod. While others come out with product after product, Apple has remained consistent in promoting the iPod. That's why it's sold over 1 million units (Apple stats of course).

I'd still get a Karma of course. I think the future of car players will be in a small portable device. In effect, an "anywhere" player.

Bruno