well, for what its worth. i was recently at a Fry's Electronics in Phoenix. AZ . and they had a nice RIO endcap on one of the isles, but the Karma was knowhere to be found, Only the little players, not even the nitrus was there.. after about a half hour searching i finally found the karma. there were like 15 of them sitting on the 2nd shelf from the floor in the corner of one isle, totally out of the general eye of customers.. not good.

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