Yes, all good points, I can clearly see that we're just going to have to agree to disagree, so I'm going to let this lie right here, but I have one final parting question...

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More guns equals less crime.

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Why is it then that the US has the highest Gun Death total in the world then?

In the UK we have, on average around 100 deaths to guns per year.

In the US that number is in the region of 10,000 deaths to guns per year.

(Numbers remembered from Bowling for Columbine).

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Paul.

PS:

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I'm going off on wild tangents, but I'm tired. I doubt anyone managed to read this far and stay awake, and if you did, you probably skipped the middle to just read the last few sentences, you bastard.

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Thanks for the first laugh I've had in this thread...