I love debates like this - really gets me thinking! Continuing to play devlis advocate for the moment...

Tony said:
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When the host values (or at least, claims to value) personal freedom and liberty above all else.


How far do you let that go? Doesn't that just lead to a selfish attitude of "I'm going to do what I want and I don't care what society thinks of me" ?

Roger said:
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And just how far is it from disrespecting the government to disrespecting the society? How far is it from not living up to the ideals required by that society? What if those ideals are someone elses ideals?



Isn't that what democratic society is about? The masses elect the few. The few attempt to gauge what ideals society currently value and pass laws to protect those ideals. The minority that choose to live in that society but not by those ideals are removed from society (to jail, typically).

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Everybody should be tolerated, as long as they cause no harm to others. Otherwise, where do you draw the line?


How do you define harm? Do you consider causing distress to others harmful? What about inciting anger?
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