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One has to wonder whether that opinion was one he truly felt was worth dying for...when you're young you're immortal and it's all so abstract... another young friend who is always busy and in a hurry was fortunate enough to learn the lesson recently with nothing worse than a night in the hospital and some colorful bruises.

In the UK it seems that young drivers pass their test and then drive at warp factor nine and nothing matters until they have an almighty crash or an almighty scare. The fact that 3rd party insurance starts at £1500/yr for the cheapest car in the safest location is proof enough.

I posted these links on another forum and got similar comments - I am surprised that the replies are only about 75% in favour of belts, quite surprising considering seat belt compliance for car drivers is over 90% here (vans are much lower, lorries usually don't have them).

Gareth