ive added all kinds of stuff that might be what it needed and still same deal. Ive been going at this for over 24 hours now. had it done up to the kernel then power in the neighborhood went out on me and screwed stuff up so started over and now this. I think it would probobly be best to call it a night well day and get some sleep and start back on it with a fresh mind. im sure ill get it worked out then. mind is just mush now Thank you all for your replies. I will go back through all this when i wake up