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The lack of folder options is a bit of an issue for me.

As far as I know, there is no commercial portable MP3 player that supports hierarchical folders officially. The Rio Karma accidently did, as they never removed that code from the car base that was used, but JEmplode had to be used to gain access to it.

Well, every single Archos device uses a folder structure by default, which is probably the biggest reason I like their products. Much like you, Charles, I think the iPod is a very nice device, but I hate the lack of control over how my music organized. (I also can't stand the necessity of iTunes. all Archos devices are mass storage devices)

Archos recently appears to have added a mode that lets you listen to music by genre/artist/whatever, but the main method is still folders. I simply find it easier to listen to music that way.

IMO, the main problem you're going to run into is that there aren't any MP3 players that are good for jogging and 20GB or more. Certainly none that also play video. The closest I think you're going to get is the Archos GMini402. My girlfriend recently got the GMini400 at my suggestion, and loves it. She can watch TV shows on the metro, or play it on a TV when she's at home. It's also a pretty decent size and the screen is very watchable. I've heard of people running with these devices, although it's at your own risk since there's a hard drive in there.

Anyway, I strongly recommend the device. I'd get one myself, but I prefer the larger screens of their AV series of players.
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