#269556 - 16/11/2005 06:21
Re: My take...
[Re: JeffS]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 13/09/1999
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Quote: Between two people of differening faiths, either one of them is right or neither are.
My point exactly. This was response to 'voting' argument for truth of religion(s): at most one of them can be true, and since I don't feel or see presence of any of their gods, the fact that there is a number of them with many adherents cary no weight with me, and can only assume none of them is true.
Quote: Understanding that, however, will not stop me from defending myself and my loved ones if a person's faith demands violence.
I was not talking about violence, and I think there is hardly any religion, however peaceful and tolerant, that has been entirely free of violence being commited in its name.
Quote: ...you are convinced in your heart that you are not a sinner and that you have no need of redemption...
I am far from being as good a person I wish to be (and probably from being what I imagine I am), but my 'sins' are against other human beings, and when I need redemption or forgiveness, it is from them.
Quote: Because it IS true, whether I can prove it to others or not. [...] But truth is not dependent on anything we do, including our ability to prove or even understand it.
I understand you feel this. I hope you can, on the other hand, see why it looks completely absurd to me, and why it depresses me to see perfectly nice people base their existence on what I see as utter nonsense.
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