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Now what's really needed here is a ruggedised, waterproof disc-based MP3 player that mounts in a bottle-cage

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Oh great. That's all we need. So not only would we have to contend with dozy-pr!ck cyclists who somehow think that traffic lights don't apply to them, ride on the pavement at every opportunity and generally try and kill themselves, but we give them a pair of headphones so they can blast themselves with music and cheerfully block out useful road noise (like the air horn of an on-coming HGV) into the bargain. Wonderful.

I shudder to think what the list of warnings and disclaimers would be on that product.

Nicholas.

PS I'm not saying that all cyclists are dozy pr!cks and I'm not saying that under all circumstances it's dangerous to have headphones on when you're cycling, but......

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