Ah, thanks a lot. I didn't know that about bitmaps. I had gotten tired of how both GIFs and JPGs create artifacts even in white space. Why can't they just keep it the same, pixel for pixel? I would think a whole area of one color would create less space than the same area with a bunch of different shades of that color. Oh well. *edit* hmm, okay this time I saved the bmpas a gif and it turned out allright. I'll see what it gets me with my other files. *edit*

So, uh, mind sharing that code for the scroll bars? I understand what you mean about needing to know when to stop I found that I needed to start restraining myself when I first learned CSS. I wanted to have an effect on EVERYTHING!!! Haha. Anyway, thanks again for the advice. It's very appreciated. Our band president really liked the simplicity that this allowed, and I'm sure band parents will appreciate that as well.

Do you think you could direct me to someplace I can find a way to make an effective password-protected area?