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#105277 - 16/07/2002 04:38 Playlist menu issue.
bbowman
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Registered: 12/05/2002
Posts: 205
Loc: Virginia, USA
I am an recent buyer of a RioCar Mark2 (20GB) and have searched through the FAQs with no success.

After upgrading the player software to 2.00b11 (dev), I had a wonderful "soup" dropdown under the "Playlist" menu that allowed me to choose the songs by artist, gnere, year, etc in addition to just getting my pre-made playlists.

After moving to the Hijack kernel, That submenu feature was lost. Then I went back to 2.00b11 (dev) and found that it was still gone.

How can I get these menus bcak?

Thanks in advance for any help.
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'96 Saab 900s (Not any more)
Still looking for a good way to install in a 2010 BMW 3 series with iDrive/NAV

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#105278 - 16/07/2002 04:57 Re: Playlist menu issue. [Re: bbowman]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

The soup views are currently a function of emplode. As long as you are running the latest version of emplode, you should still see the soup views, with or without hijack or 2.0b11. What version of emplode are you running?
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#105279 - 16/07/2002 04:59 Re: Playlist menu issue. [Re: bbowman]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
I am an recent buyer of a RioCar Mark2 (20GB) [snip]

After upgrading the player software to 2.00b11 (dev), I had a wonderful "soup" dropdown under the "Playlist" menu that allowed me to choose the songs by artist, gnere, year, etc in addition to just getting my pre-made playlists.


Did the person you bought it from perchance have a long scarf, a robotic dog, and a blue telephone box that made wheezing noises?

Soup menus on the player are a feature we certainly intend to implement in the future, but we haven't done so yet. I can only suggest that the previous owner had explicitly set up a collection of soup playlists. The only "soupy" feature in any car player software, even internal builds, is the search window -- which lets you select songs by artist, genre, year, etc indepedent of what playlists they might be in.

Unless there was a version of Hijack that did something clever with soup menus?

Peter

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#105280 - 16/07/2002 05:12 Re: Playlist menu issue. [Re: peter]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

The blue police box is certainly right, but this guy was kinda tall, rather formal clothing, white hair, drove around in an old fashioned car.

My guess is that the emplode revision is mismatched. Unless it was purchased used to have the pre-built playlists. Even then, they would have needed to be explicitly removed in order to clear the playlists - reloading a kernel should not have done that.
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#105281 - 16/07/2002 09:18 Re: Playlist menu issue. [Re: peter]
bbowman
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Registered: 12/05/2002
Posts: 205
Loc: Virginia, USA
Was I hallucinating? I hope not.

The empeg was "new" in out of the box! It was after I replaced the kernal myself.

With the original kernel, I remember on the empeg itself that when selecting the playlist menu, it popped up with my playlists and the "play" icon.

After I upgraded the "Player" to 2.00 beta11 (dev), I remember that after selecting the playlists, a second menu popped down (on the empeg!) with the selections of Artist, title, Genre, Year, etc and it included again playlists which popped down it's 3rd menu where my playlists were found with the "play" icon. And this was on the empeg. I hope that I'm not going crazy!

All of this occurred on the empeg itself, I'm not confusing it with the emplode program on my PC. Is there some setting somewhere in one of the config files that enables this?
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RioCar MK][a 20GB+80GB
'96 Saab 900s (Not any more)
Still looking for a good way to install in a 2010 BMW 3 series with iDrive/NAV

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#105282 - 16/07/2002 09:32 Re: Playlist menu issue. [Re: bbowman]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
Is there some setting somewhere in one of the config files that enables this?

It would save us a lot of coding if there was! What you've described is pretty much exactly how we hope to make it work sometime after 2.0...

Peter

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#105283 - 16/07/2002 09:46 Re: Playlist menu issue. [Re: bbowman]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
This would be the case if you setup those playlists yourself with Emplode. What Peter's saying is that they will not automatically be created for you (you would have to make a "Generes" playlist and put each Genre in it). However, I'm working on the code right now for jEmplode that WILL do this automatically for you, so maybe this will happen before too long.

Mike

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#105284 - 16/07/2002 11:52 Re: Playlist menu issue. [Re: bbowman]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
By any chance, did the new out-of-the-box player happen to have some tunes and playlists on it already? Perhaps some playlists named "Artists", "Genres", etc.? And when you put your stuff on the player, you deleted those playlists?
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#105285 - 16/07/2002 12:05 Re: Playlist menu issue. [Re: tfabris]
bbowman
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Registered: 12/05/2002
Posts: 205
Loc: Virginia, USA
These are all very good questions which is leading me to nelieve that I'm crazy. When I got this machine, there were no playlists on it. It was basically blank as far as customization is concerned. I had to add them.

Speaking of j/emplode. I haven't tried to drag the soup objects into the playlist . Is it set up to do that? I'll have to try that whe I get back home.
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RioCar MK][a 20GB+80GB
'96 Saab 900s (Not any more)
Still looking for a good way to install in a 2010 BMW 3 series with iDrive/NAV

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#105286 - 16/07/2002 12:08 Re: Playlist menu issue. [Re: bbowman]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
I haven't tried to drag the soup objects into the playlist . Is it set up to do that?

In Jemplode, it's not a drag. You have to select the soup object(s), then copy and paste them into the playlists. But if I recall correctly, that does work. Even recursively. As I recall, I specifically requested that feature.
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#105287 - 16/07/2002 12:09 Re: Playlist menu issue. [Re: tfabris]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
Um, also, as I recall, Mike was thinking of adding an automatically-created-and-updated set of playlists that matched Soup views to Jemplode...
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#105288 - 16/07/2002 13:43 Re: Playlist menu issue. [Re: tfabris]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
Working on it now, actually .. It should be done soon. I have the mirroring done, I'm just working on the part where it refreshes prior to a sync now.

Mike

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#105289 - 16/07/2002 17:54 Re: Playlist menu issue. [Re: bbowman]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
Did you see these on the player's front panel display, or on your PC?

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#105290 - 17/07/2002 06:17 Re: Playlist menu issue. [Re: mlord]
bbowman
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Registered: 12/05/2002
Posts: 205
Loc: Virginia, USA
That's what makes me think I'm crazy. It was on the empeg face. Not on my PC, not in emplode
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Brent
RioCar MK][a 20GB+80GB
'96 Saab 900s (Not any more)
Still looking for a good way to install in a 2010 BMW 3 series with iDrive/NAV

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#105291 - 17/07/2002 08:22 Re: Playlist menu issue. [Re: bbowman]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
S'pose it might have been one of the SEARCH windows, then..

Cheers

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