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#107234 - 24/07/2002 23:07 Custom Shuffle - Newest First
svferris
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Registered: 06/11/2001
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Loc: San Diego, CA, USA
First, thanks to the empeg team for fixing CTIME. That's one of the coolest things in the new release.

With the fix, it looks like my custom shuffle mode, Newest First, is working flawlessly. If anybody is interested, I put the following line under the "[custom]" section of the config.ini.

shuffle0=Newest First,-CTIME=32000

I suppose you could do oldest first by taking off the "-" sign. Anybody else have cool custom shuffle modes?
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#107235 - 24/07/2002 23:51 Re: Custom Shuffle - Newest First [Re: svferris]
canuckInOR
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Registered: 13/02/2002
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Loc: Portland, OR
I've tried that and about 10 other different combinations as posted in the technical forum, and I'm still SOL after upgrading to b13. I wonder if JEmplode fills in that field properly? Did you use Emplode or JEmplode? It doesn't matter how I shuffle by CTIME, it's almost always in the same order.

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#107236 - 25/07/2002 00:09 Re: Custom Shuffle - Newest First [Re: canuckInOR]
svferris
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I've been using Emplode. Go into Emplode (or Jemplode) and view all tracks. Add the column "Created" to the view, then sort on that column. All the tracks should have a time stamp and sort properly (oldest or newest first). If they don't, then there's a problem.

Like I said, it hadn't been working until I upgraded to beta13.
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#107237 - 25/07/2002 08:27 Re: Custom Shuffle - Newest First [Re: svferris]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
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Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Ooo...I've been wishing for a shuffle feature like this!
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#107238 - 25/07/2002 20:35 Re: Custom Shuffle - Newest First [Re: svferris]
canuckInOR
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Go into Emplode (or Jemplode) and view all tracks. Add the column "Created" to the view

JEmplode for me -- I'm on Linux. The Created column is 100% empty. Not a single one of my songs has it.




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#107239 - 25/07/2002 20:41 Re: Custom Shuffle - Newest First [Re: canuckInOR]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
Aha.

See if you can synch once with a 2.0x version of Emplode, it will prompt you to update the databse to the 2.0 version, which will include that missing field.

Interesting incompatibility there. Originally loaded using 1.0 player firmware. 2.0 player firmware installed, but 2.0 emplode never connected. Files on player still using the 1.0 file format.

Don't suppose there's any way for Mike to easily detect and trigger that big 2.0 database re-do thingy in Jemplode is there?
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#107240 - 25/07/2002 23:06 Re: Custom Shuffle - Newest First [Re: tfabris]
canuckInOR
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Don't suppose there's any way for Mike to easily detect and trigger that big 2.0 database re-do thingy in Jemplode is there?

I sure hope there is... I have no access to Emplode, aka a Windows program.

Edit: I'm trying emptool now...
Edit2: Nope, no dice. I tried using it to just sync, and tried the repair command, and tried the --rebuild flag. No Create fields were magically filled in. Then tried uploading a new song with JEmplode. New songs didn't have the Create field, either...


Edited by canuckInLA (25/07/2002 23:47)

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#107241 - 26/07/2002 01:41 Re: Custom Shuffle - Newest First [Re: canuckInOR]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
The ctime field is optional. emplode v1.0 didn't create it. emptool doesn't create it. I guess that because emptool doesn't create it, Jemplode doesn't create it.

And since it's optional, there's no code in emplode/emptool to fix it up after the fact.
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#107242 - 26/07/2002 11:51 Re: Custom Shuffle - Newest First [Re: Roger]
canuckInOR
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Loc: Portland, OR
Bummer. Guess I'll have to make another JEmplode request. Maybe I should learn Java...

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#107243 - 26/07/2002 13:29 Re: Custom Shuffle - Newest First [Re: tfabris]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
Actually I do, but ctime wasn't included on the list of tags to fix. Didn't know that it existed, actually I'll include this in the next release...

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#107244 - 26/07/2002 13:30 Re: Custom Shuffle - Newest First [Re: Roger]
mschrag
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Is ctime the time the MP3 was added to the Empeg in epoc-time?

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#107245 - 27/07/2002 00:46 Re: Custom Shuffle - Newest First [Re: Roger]
svferris
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Loc: San Diego, CA, USA
Ok, did I completely miss this, or did you guys add a "Newest Additions" shuffle mode in the actual beta13 release?
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#107246 - 27/07/2002 07:37 Re: Custom Shuffle - Newest First [Re: svferris]
tfabris
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Yes.
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#107247 - 27/07/2002 14:51 Re: Custom Shuffle - Newest First [Re: tfabris]
svferris
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Registered: 06/11/2001
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Loc: San Diego, CA, USA
That's good, since mine doesn't seem to want to work all the time.

Can one of the empeg guys tell me what they used for the newest additions shuffle? I'd like to make one that also takes some randomness into account.
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#107248 - 29/07/2002 02:52 Re: Custom Shuffle - Newest First [Re: mschrag]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
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Loc: London, UK
Er, yeah. I think so. It's a standard Unix time_t, straight from
time_t now = time(NULL)
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