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#10971 - 06/07/2000 13:26 Mk.II hiccups
Dredd
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Registered: 12/11/1999
Posts: 261
Loc: Bay Area, California
Another thing I noticed today (now that my MkII is installed) is that the MkII has "hiccuped" twice. By hiccup, I mean that its playing playing playing .. pauses for a beat or two... playing playing playing.

Not that it goes into "pause" mode, but just that the tune STOPS, as though it ran out of its cached data before it had read more in, or something like that. I've had this happen twice now, with two completely different songs.

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#10972 - 06/07/2000 14:21 Re: Mk.II hiccups [Re: Dredd]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
I've had this happen on the MK1 several times in several recent revisions of the software (since beta 10). So it's not necessarily a MK2-only bug.

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#10973 - 06/07/2000 16:23 Re: Mk.II hiccups [Re: tfabris]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
I have several MP3s that my MK1 occasionally hiccups on (though often it plays them without any hiccup). I think this is just due to some subtle encoding errors on the files.

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#10974 - 06/07/2000 16:29 Re: Mk.II hiccups [Re: andy]
Henno
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Registered: 15/07/1999
Posts: 568
Loc: Meije, Netherlands
this is just due to some subtle encoding errors on the files.

I don't think so. When you play the same file again, it'll play OK. I believe it has something to do with caching: if you start the same playlist again and don't touch it, the same pause wil show up in the same place.

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#10975 - 06/07/2000 18:32 Re: Mk.II hiccups [Re: Henno]
andy
carpal tunnel

Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
That's what I meant by "occasionally hiccups on (though often it plays them without any hiccup)" i.e. I will get a hiccup (usually a couple of hiccups over several seconds), but if I play the track again it won't hiccup. However, I have several tracks that this happens to regularly (say every fifth time I play these tracks).

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#10976 - 07/07/2000 02:24 Re: Mk.II hiccups [Re: Dredd]
schofiel
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
I'm seeing a similar effect since the upgrade to 11, but this has occasionally occurred right back to B8.

What I am now seeing occurs more frequently; the player seems to "Hiccup" frequently on tracks that play OK on WinAmp, and at other times on the empeg without trouble.

I now also have the player hanging dead in the middle of a track without warning. The graphics continue running, but remote access, button access and the player have hung.

Handling of the Infra red interface should really be handled by a seperate application, not the player itself, as there is no recovery from a player hang in this situation.

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#10977 - 07/07/2000 03:28 Re: Mk.II hiccups [Re: schofiel]
altman
carpal tunnel

Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
The IR is dealt with by a separate thread - the problem is, the player has run into deadlock and has hung.

Peter's been doing lots of work tracking down such problems, so hopefully they'll be banished from future releases.

If you have any tunes which consistently (or fairly often) skip, we'd like a copy to help find any problems in the decoder.

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#10978 - 07/07/2000 03:54 Re: Mk.II hiccups [Re: altman]
andy
carpal tunnel

Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
If you have any tunes which consistently (or fairly often) skip, we'd like a copy to help find any problems in the decoder.

I have such a file, it is 3.8Mb, where would you like it ?



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#10979 - 07/07/2000 03:59 Re: Mk.II hiccups [Re: andy]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
email is probably best... [email protected]

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#10980 - 07/07/2000 04:11 Re: Mk.II hiccups [Re: Dredd]
Big John
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Registered: 05/10/1999
Posts: 126
Loc: Hants, UK.
Hi,

In reply to:

Another thing I noticed today (now that my MkII is installed) is that the MkII has "hiccuped" twice. By hiccup, I mean that its playing playing playing .. pauses for a beat or two... playing playing playing.


I've seen this on the MK2 also, I've only played it for about 20mins. since I've had it, so I was reluctant to call it a bug until I've used it a little more. I did rewind the track to the same point and it didn't hiccup... Odd!

Something else, I upgraded my MK1 to beta10A, since then (I'm still using this player in the car) I seem to be getting more hiccups. Although I did rewind one track that skipped and it was repeatable, I'll be more vigilant.

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