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#110004 - 09/08/2002 08:42 Empeg sleds without wire harness
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4911
Loc: Orange County, NY USA
I may be able to fabricate an empeg sled. I do not have the wire harness or connectors, so it would just be the metal piece.

I asked Rob for a drawing of the sled, but I never got a reply. So, the sled will take a bit more effort to make. Plus, it will result in the death of an original sled. Before undertaking such a project, I would like to gauge interest.

First, I would like to say that the aim is to get a 100% replica of the originals. Second, I have a million-dollar powder paint facility here, so it would be possible to paint the sleds. We mainly paint in black and white, but it is possible to do custom colors. Third, target price for unpainted sleds is between $50 and $75 (excluding shipping).

If you would be interested in something like this:
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Please, no not send me email or private messages at this point. Thanks.
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#110005 - 09/08/2002 08:59 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I couldn't afford to buy one now, which is the same reason that I didn't buy one before, but I would definitely be interested in general.
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#110006 - 09/08/2002 09:17 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: wfaulk]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3527
Loc: Columbus, OH
Definitely interested. I have two connectors on order from Shonky, and have acquired some DIN size sleds from old stereos, but they'll require modification to work right. It'd be nice to get some the right size with the holes in the right places.
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#110007 - 09/08/2002 10:19 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
Micman2b
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Registered: 27/12/2001
Posts: 441
Loc: Central, NC, USA
What would be neat would be a half-sized sled, just big enough to fit the back end of the player into, kind of like a docking station..
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#110008 - 09/08/2002 10:40 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: wfaulk]
leftyfb
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Registered: 04/03/2002
Posts: 217
Loc: Lowell, MA
Just like wfaulk, I can't afford one right now, but when money comes my way, it would be a great direction to throw it in.
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#110009 - 09/08/2002 11:08 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
Waterman981
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Registered: 14/02/2002
Posts: 804
Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
I could really use some... when the store closed, I had no extra money to get some... so this would be great!

edit: So if they were powder coated, wouldn't it get scratched up from inserting and removing the player? Unless you powercoat that too.... I know the powdercoat finish on my bike doesn't like scraping up against rocks when I crash


Edited by waterman981 (09/08/2002 11:12)
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#110010 - 09/08/2002 12:39 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: Waterman981]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1648
Loc: Louisiana, USA
I would be interested too.

Stu
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#110011 - 10/08/2002 17:12 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: maczrool]
justinlarsen
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Registered: 31/12/2001
Posts: 1109
Loc: Petaluma, CA
rob count me in, if i could get a black one that would be so great. if you need some donations or what not for the inital products email me and i can paypal you some money. or ill send it some other way since i remember u hating paypal :-)
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#110012 - 10/08/2002 17:46 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
DeadFire
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Registered: 30/05/2002
Posts: 695
I would be interested. I'd like to get together the parts for a home docking station.

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#110013 - 10/08/2002 20:35 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: JBjorgen]
caseyse
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Registered: 07/10/2000
Posts: 112
Loc: CA, USA
I would like two.

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#110014 - 10/08/2002 22:46 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4911
Loc: Orange County, NY USA
Ok, I will try to get this going this week. I don't need money up front. I just wanted to get an idea of how many I should make up on the first run.

Black seems like the obvious choice for someone that would like them painted. Thankfully, this is our standard color and we paint in black nearly every day. On a side note, we use textured black paint for durability, so the paint should stay on quite well.

Justin, yes I do hate PayPal.
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#110015 - 11/08/2002 19:05 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
RobRoy
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Registered: 17/06/2002
Posts: 39
Put me down for two, please.

Thanks

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#110016 - 17/08/2002 13:48 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
Shonky
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Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 1970
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
Count me in for a couple Rob.
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#110017 - 17/08/2002 19:03 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: Shonky]
MMorrow
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Registered: 07/01/2002
Posts: 54
Loc: Louisville, KY USA
Rob -
Please put me down for one in black. ...Mark

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#110018 - 18/08/2002 11:26 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
munkworks
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Registered: 25/01/2002
Posts: 20
Loc: Ventura, California, USA
Rob,
Are you able to punch or mill or whatever the mating connector's shape in the back of the sled ? I know you stated that you would build it as close to an original as possible; I'm just curious how close.
When you work it out, I would like to find out what a black powdercoated sled will cost. I could potentially use 3 or 4.
Thanks for creating a solution for a fundamental problem when you have more cars than Empegs !

Lars.
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#110019 - 18/08/2002 12:40 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: munkworks]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4911
Loc: Orange County, NY USA
Yes, the mating connector hole will definitely be punched in the back.

There will potentially be an ethernet bracket and an "expansion panel." The expansion panel would presently be used for a toslink docking connector.
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#110020 - 19/08/2002 22:27 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3454
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
I've just emailed you the .dxf of the sled design which I just found... hopefully this will help!

I don't plan to give these out generally, but there is a shortage of sleds and so it's useful that someone who may be able to make more gets the design!

Hugo

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#110021 - 20/08/2002 06:45 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: altman]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4911
Loc: Orange County, NY USA
Thank you very much. This will likely allow for a sled or two to make it to the Cincinnati meet. It also prevented the untimely death of an original empeg sled. I would have hated to see it dismantled.
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#110022 - 20/08/2002 12:46 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
fede
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Registered: 31/01/2002
Posts: 89
Loc: Texas
Rob,

When you decide how to set up the official list please let us know. I am interested as well. The quantity I buy will be directly related to the final price. I can see buying about three of them if I can afford that many.
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#110023 - 21/08/2002 07:28 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
jbrinkerhoff
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 148
I'd be interested in at least one, and I KNOW my cousin, who has bitched since empeg closed down, would be in for one or three.

Anyone in the US planning on doing a group-buy for the connectors? Someone feel like making the wiring harnesses?

If I had some more spare time Id give it a shot, crimping all those pins would be a pain in the ass though (by hand).

BTW, The first thing I did to my empeg sled before installign it was to paint it with three coats of "matte black" paint. Just hardware variety. It has held up VERY well, and looks SO much better than pain metal when the empeg is out.

-Jeff
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#110024 - 21/08/2002 07:35 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: jbrinkerhoff]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4911
Loc: Orange County, NY USA
Anyone in the US planning on doing a group-buy for the connectors? Someone feel like making the wiring harnesses?

I was looking in to that. It's not that the connectors are expensive, it just takes time to wire them up. For that reason, I would probably keep the wire harnesses a seperate purchase from the sleds.
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#110025 - 24/08/2002 19:43 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
jamville
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Registered: 23/08/2002
Posts: 93
Loc: South Texas
Rob,

I would be interested in acquiring two or more.

Thank you,


Joe Mumme
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#110026 - 24/08/2002 22:22 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
Shonky
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Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 1970
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
Trust me. Wiring up a lot a connectors takes a long time. Particularly since it's not just 1 wire per pin. i.e. cut to length, strip, crimp and clip into plug. Because pins are shared between the serial port and others, it's quite time consuming. I even have a blister on my hand from my ratchet crimp tool.

I'm about 80% of the way through my first batch of 40 connectors. Those reading this who have already paid, I hope to start sending them out mid next week.
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#110027 - 25/08/2002 02:35 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
jarob10
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Registered: 07/01/2002
Posts: 274
Loc: Stockport, UK
I would like 2 units.
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#110028 - 25/08/2002 04:07 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: Shonky]
thedon
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Registered: 18/08/2002
Posts: 65
How much would you charge for a single connector?

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#110029 - 25/08/2002 04:12 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: thedon]
Shonky
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Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 1970
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
A single connector with all 24 pins but no harness was US$13 plus postage. I don't have any spares left though. If you like I can add you to my list of latecomers in case anyone backs out. Send me an email to the address in my profile if you want to go on my list.

Sorry Rob, didn't mean to hijack your thread.
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#110030 - 25/08/2002 04:17 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: Shonky]
thedon
journeyman

Registered: 18/08/2002
Posts: 65
Yep, add me in for two, also, where can I find some sleds?

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#110031 - 25/08/2002 04:21 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
talmou
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Registered: 22/05/2002
Posts: 20
Loc: London
Can you put me down for 1 sled as well please.

Thanks
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#110032 - 25/08/2002 04:35 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: thedon]
thedon
journeyman

Registered: 18/08/2002
Posts: 65
Wait a minute... Did you say no harness? Or in otherwords, does that mean that there will be no wires comming out of it at all? What would I have to do to connect it to power/RCA, etc? (Sorry if I sound like an idiot, I just wanna know what I'm getting myself into here...)

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#110033 - 25/08/2002 09:37 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: thedon]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
Crimp/solder your own choice of wires to the pins in the connector.

/Michael
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