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#111427 - 17/08/2002 19:30 #080000446 MkII STOLEN
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
I'll post the details later as i'm in a rush at the moment, but my empeg mkII (with sled AND tuner) was stolen out of my car via busted window today in broad daylight on a semi-busy st... with witnesses... in Berkeley, CA. The serial number is #080000446 so watch ebay and the like folks. I'll email rob later. Thanks.
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#111428 - 17/08/2002 20:08 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: loren]
ricin
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Registered: 19/06/2000
Posts: 1495
Loc: US: CA
Oh no! Not another! I hope it turns up, being that there where witnesses gives some hope.
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#111429 - 17/08/2002 20:14 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: ricin]
DeadFire
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Registered: 30/05/2002
Posts: 695
This is getting a little too common. Every new such case raises my paranoia just a little more.

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#111430 - 17/08/2002 20:19 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: DeadFire]
ricin
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Registered: 19/06/2000
Posts: 1495
Loc: US: CA
I know the feeling. My friends all think I'm crazy when I won't get out of the car (even for just a few minutes) without taking the empeg with me. It is definitely worth the effort to have the sanity of knowing at all times where it is.
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#111431 - 17/08/2002 20:24 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: ricin]
DeadFire
addict

Registered: 30/05/2002
Posts: 695
Today I went to see a movie. I locked it in the trunk. I have the same faceplate for my car that Tony (tfabris) ordered. So when it's not in there, it looks like there isn't anything to steal.

If I'm out in public and I can't carry it with me, I figure hiding it is the next best option. But under the seat isn't good enough for me.

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#111432 - 17/08/2002 20:30 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: loren]
robricc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
That sucks man. I hope it finds its way back to you.
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#111433 - 17/08/2002 20:32 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: DeadFire]
ricin
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Registered: 19/06/2000
Posts: 1495
Loc: US: CA
I do leave mine in the trunk sometimes, but I still don't feel it is much safer in there, so I only do that when I have no other choice. Otherwise, if I know I'm going somewhere where I will not be able to take it with me, I leave it at home. I can live without having music for that drive if it means I will have it in the future.
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#111434 - 17/08/2002 21:08 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: loren]
Laura
pooh-bah

Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
I think this is the first time that the sled and tuner were taken also. This person knows what it is and I doubt will throw it in the trash.
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#111435 - 17/08/2002 22:01 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: Laura]
image
old hand

Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
you have a civic also, right? cuz if so, he probably just tore out the whole DIN adapter... its really easy on my 99 civic.

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#111436 - 17/08/2002 22:08 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: loren]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Good luck man. Not that ANYBODY deserves this, but you're a great asset to this community and this really hits home.
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#111437 - 17/08/2002 22:18 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Thanks for the well wishings everyone. I've got a bunch of details and theories to post... but i'm about to go out and drown the old sorrows... here's the mandatory pics in the mean time...

bye bye empeg.
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#111438 - 17/08/2002 22:25 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: loren]
Dignan
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
Oh god those pictures hurt! So sorry man. Yeah, I guess it's safe to say the guy just took the whole DIN and wasn't just aiming at the empeg. What was in the other space?
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#111439 - 17/08/2002 22:38 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: loren]
Anonymous
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Man that sucks, did they take anything else?

At least they took the sled too, so like Laura said you probably won't find it smashed on the side of the road or in the trash.

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#111440 - 17/08/2002 23:03 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: ]
jbauer
veteran

Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
Loren, wow - I really feel for you. This is just terrible. I want to hear about the witnesses and stuff. Don't let this get you down. Get another - they aren't grossly overpriced anymore.

- Jon

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#111441 - 17/08/2002 23:09 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: loren]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31572
Loc: Seattle, WA
Loren, my deepest sympathies go out to you. I am so very sorry to hear about this.

The fact that it happened under those particular circumstances is frightening, and I hope that by reading this, others will be even more careful with their players.

Note: I have not looked at your pictures yet because it would be too painful for me to see, I'm sure.
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#111442 - 17/08/2002 23:13 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: DeadFire]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31572
Loc: Seattle, WA
I locked it in the trunk. I have the same faceplate for my car that Tony (tfabris) ordered. So when it's not in there, it looks like there isn't anything to steal.

To anyone reading: I do not recommend doing this. Do not lock your player in the trunk. Thieves could be sitting somewhere near the parking lot watching people go in and out of their cars and choosing their targets. If they see you lock it up in the trunk, they will certainly steal it because they will know you're not coming back for a while.

When I use my cover-plate, it's not to protect the player (since I always carry my player with me), it's to protect the window from getting smashed for no reason.
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#111443 - 17/08/2002 23:26 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: Laura]
Daria
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
Scary. Very scary.

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#111444 - 18/08/2002 00:01 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: loren]
matthew_k
pooh-bah

Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
Where in Berkeley did it happen? I've had the exact same thing happen to me in my parking garge in Berkeley... Luckily I had my empeg inside, so I just lost my amp and window and raised my insurance premiums... You'll be vacuuming out glass forever, but it's all replacable...

Matthew

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#111445 - 18/08/2002 02:55 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: loren]
BartDG
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/05/2001
Posts: 2616
Loc: Bruges, Belgium
When you say they took you player, tuner AND sled, this makes me think that :
1) the thief knew what he was after.
2) since these things are hardly common (especially the tuner), the thief probably KNEW that you had an Empeg in your car.
With this I mean that you possibly have met the thief and know him.
Have you met any persons lately whom you told about/shown you Empeg to and that seemed more than mildly interested?

Also I can see in this picture that there are some grease stains on the right hand corner where the sled was. It's possibly a fingerprint belonging to the thief that he made while pulling your sled out.
Same goes for that LCD screen. If the thief has touched it, his prints will be all over it.
My advice is to go to the police and have them dust you car for fingerprints.
And if they find prints, then keep you fingers crossed that the thief is already known in their prints database.

I'm very sorry about your loss. I hope this helps somewhat.
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#111446 - 18/08/2002 04:30 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: loren]
andym
carpal tunnel

Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3995
Loc: Manchester UK
That's really sh*tty, I hope you find the SOB and give him a good kicking. Do you have a spare player you can be getting on with?
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#111447 - 18/08/2002 06:09 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: loren]
Laura
pooh-bah

Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
What sad pictures, very sad. I am sure that if you can't find another player that one of us would sell you a spare that we have. So don't let it get you down too much.

I worry everyday about mine, it is not insured and gets left in the van while I am in various stores working. But I am not gone for long and in the worse parts of town their is always a security guard right inside the door. It would be more of a hassle to me to carry it in each time than to leave it.

I hope you were able to drown your sorrows last night and today looks a little bit brighter for you.
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MKI #017/90

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#111448 - 18/08/2002 06:50 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: loren]
303
enthusiast

Registered: 24/04/2002
Posts: 305
Loc: Germany
f........ hell, the empeg and the car of a man is holy!!!

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#111449 - 18/08/2002 08:39 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: BartDG]
Ezekiel
pooh-bah

Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Loren - my condolences. That is truly crappy.

Archeon- your post is very much along the thoughts I had about this last night, except I wanted to raise one other ugly possibility. This isn't necessarily with regards to Loren, (as I don't know what details he's posted) but for those of you posting pictures of your install be careful about how much personal information you post here about where you are (in your profile). If they know about where you live, what your car looks like and your full name it's not too hard to find exactly where you live. An ugly thought, but I feel compelled to raise it.

Again Loren I'm very sorry to hear about this. I hope he's caught & prosecuted.

-Zeke
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#111450 - 18/08/2002 15:09 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: Ezekiel]
Anonymous
Unregistered


An empeg serial stealer might be on the loose!

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#111451 - 18/08/2002 20:36 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: ]
jheathco
enthusiast

Registered: 21/12/2001
Posts: 326
Loc: Mission Viejo, California
When I see stuff like this happen I start thinking we should do what they do in some other countries... you get caught stealing... you lose a finger.
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#111452 - 18/08/2002 22:53 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: jheathco]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Alrighty folks... here's the story,

It was Saturday afternoon in Berkeley, CA, on the corner of 6th and Camelia Street. A friend (fellow empeg owner) and i were doing some "junk" shopping all day at reuse centers. We parked the car across the street and just around the corner from Urban Ore, went to get some food at Picante, about 500 feet from my car, then went across the street to Urban Ore. I normally take the empeg with me or at least put it in the trunk, but i figured it would be fine in a fairly active area such as we were in, and we would only be gone an hour.

We came back and i pressed the button to turn the alarm off, and it beeped 4 times which means that someone tripped the alarm while i was gone. I thought nothing off it other than saying "that's weird"... and went to the trunk to put something in, when Scott said something pointing out the busted passenger window sitting on my front seat. Quick survey and i knew... they only took the empeg. They knew what they were doing i immediately thought. We looked around the area, hoping the guy didn't know what he had and dumped it in a garbage or something, then i called the claim in.

So after calling the insurance company, a guy pulls up with his wife and asks "Is your car okay?" Hah... "No, someone busted my window and stole my stereo" i replied. Long and short of it is he and his wife were just coming home looking for a parking spot, when they saw someone standing over my car and the alarm going off with a grey hatchback across the street double parked... and thought it was weird. "I saw a hispanic guy standing there as the alarm was going off, but there was people around the streets and i didn't wanna jump to conclusions ya know?" he says. Nice. So he drove back around the block, and the hatchback was then in front of my car kind of at an angle, and the guy was still in my car. I assume that means the guy had a getaway driver. Then he says after they got home, they saw the car drive off, which is when he thought he might wanna get the plate number, which he did... or so he thought.

So he tells me all this... and for some reason i wasn't pissed at the guy and his wife... i'd already accepted the empegs fate and i dunno... i wouldn't expect someone to put themselves in any danger for a stupid stereo... and on top of that... i can see how he would just think it was someone trying to turn off their alarm or something... i mean this thief had nuts to break into a car in a fairly busy street, with people all around and cars passing by. Anyhow, whatever.... i wished he'd have done something but i wasn't pissed at him.

So the cop comes. I give a report, the guy who "saw" it comes back, gives his report. They run the plate, it was for a Jag, not a grey honda civic hatchback that the guy saw. So much for that. They can't run similar plates... they have to have an exact match. I turned down the fingerprinting, no point... everything was smudged.

Now... the thing is... this guy knew what he was after. He took out the pocket and faceplate around the empeg carefully, only breaking a few tabs. He took the tuner (including the adaptor!), and the sled, unplugging the RCA's. He had to cut two of them that were taped to well to just yank out. He attempted to get the LCD screen, which i knew a long time ago that no one would ever be getting out the way we put it in... no way... so at least that was amusing to me. It still works too, despite the shell being snapped in two. Other than that, he left everything. The Rio remote, the two pairs of sunglasses, and the GPS that were hidden in the console, AND the playstation in the glovebox. Oh, and my backpack in the backseat. I know i know, i had a lot of crap in there... but this was a busy area!!

I'm guessing one of two things. This guy either saw us somewhere else and followed us there, and knew what an empeg was, or he knew my car from the web, and knew what was in it. The latter seems pretty unlikely since he'd have known to take the playstation... but maybe he's already got one... who knows. I'd wager either way he knew exactly what he was going for and what it was worth, because he was a ballsy bastard to do it where he did it, in broad daylight, with people around.

I also noticed today that he tried to punch in the passenger lock, busting it up good, and also tried to pull the trunk release, bending the hell out of it. Glad i lock that from the inside.

This all does make me weary of all the info i have online. People have always told me they thought it was stupid of me, but i dunno.

As for the theory of it being someone i met or told about the empeg recently... i can't think of anyone that fits that bill... i haven't showed it off or anything except to close friends.

After my $500 deductible, everything else is paid for... i'm gonna find out how the insurance company is going to handle getting me a replacement tomorrow. Thanks a million to those who've offered to sell me one... you have no idea how much at ease that sets my mind... i sincerely appreciate it. My car is across the street with plastic over the window... a new one goes in at 8am tomorrow. Here's to hoping i don't have to file a stolen car claim in the morning.
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#111453 - 18/08/2002 22:56 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: loren]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Oh, and in the chance the guy who did it is reading this, welcome to the board. I hope you like punk music.
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#111454 - 18/08/2002 23:46 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: loren]
ithoughti
old hand

Registered: 17/07/2001
Posts: 721
Loc: Boston, MA USA
Oh, and in the chance the guy who did it is reading this, welcome to the board. I hope you like punk music.



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#111455 - 19/08/2002 02:07 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: loren]
BartDG
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/05/2001
Posts: 2616
Loc: Bruges, Belgium
They run the plate, it was for a Jag, not a grey honda civic hatchback that the guy saw. So much for that. They can't run similar plates... they have to have an exact match.

Bull. They can do similar plates. I know because I do this all the time. Of course if they wanted to is another matter alltogether.
The way I'd do it is search for a list of all the honda civic hatchback's that are in the San Francisco area and then cross reference that result with the number plate I got from the withness. This has worked for me many times.
Sounds more to me like they weren't in the mood to do their job right.

I turned down the fingerprinting, no point... everything was smudged

A shame. You'd be surprised how much fingerprints you can get out of a car, and also in areas you wouldn't expect them to be. It's not because you can't see the prints that they're not there.
Of course that's a moot point now since you've already used the car since the break-in and most probably contaminated the evidence by now.

Again, I'm very sorry for your loss. If you think there's anything I can help you with, don't hesitate to ask.
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#111456 - 19/08/2002 04:59 Re: #080000446 MkII STOLEN [Re: BartDG]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

I am extremely sorry to hear about this. From your description, it sounds like someone who knew what they were doing. If not for the empeg itself, but certainly someone who steals car stereos a lot. Having a getaway driver... Quick removal... Very sad.
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