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#118749 - 01/10/2002 01:21 Horizontal display lines?
chango
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Registered: 10/11/1999
Posts: 22
I recently recieved a DarkStorm lens and am very impressed with it. I notice that they dont have the reflective sort of backing that the official lenses have so you can see horizontal lines from the display through the lens. Is there any solution to this?
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#118750 - 01/10/2002 01:25 Re: Horizontal display lines? [Re: chango]
Shonky
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Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
Do you mean like this - click here

If so, generally most people jsut accept them as they are.

BTW: I see you're new - The FAQ linked at the top of every page is an excellent source of info.
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#118751 - 01/10/2002 02:53 Re: Horizontal display lines? [Re: Shonky]
chango
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Registered: 10/11/1999
Posts: 22
Sorry, I should have stated that I checked out the FAQ and there wasn't anything that was helpful to what I'm talking about. This picture shows more of what the problem is. The lines are quite a bit less noticeable but with this picture you can get the point. Now with the empeg official lenses these lines are not visible, I'm not sure if its due to the tint of the lenses or the reflectiveness.


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#118752 - 01/10/2002 04:34 Re: Horizontal display lines? [Re: chango]
Derek
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Registered: 16/08/1999
Posts: 453
Loc: NRW, Germany
Well in my opinion what you are seeing *is* the heating filaments in the display, as described in the FAQ. It is completely normal
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#118753 - 01/10/2002 06:11 Re: Horizontal display lines? [Re: Derek]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
The FAQ is describing the fact that the heating elements heat the screen unevenly, which results in the screen being of variegated brightness. What chango's seeing are the actual filaments themselves. They're hard to see with, for example, the blue screen, but fairly easy to see using the red screen. What color DarkStorm lens did you get, chango?

Edit: Okay, the FAQ describes both, but only pictures the variegation.


Edited by wfaulk (01/10/2002 06:13)
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#118754 - 01/10/2002 07:27 Re: Horizontal display lines? [Re: chango]
DeadFire
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Registered: 30/05/2002
Posts: 695
Like Bitt says, I believe you are seeing the filaments as well. These were quite easy for me to see when I was using the regular Red or DarkStorm's Smoke lens. It's quite possible there are many other colors that will let the filaments be visible.

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#118755 - 01/10/2002 08:00 Re: Horizontal display lines? [Re: DeadFire]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
I have both the clear and the smoked lenses. The clear lens is by far the lenses filaments are most visible. With the smoked lenses I can barley see them.
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#118756 - 01/10/2002 09:04 Re: Horizontal display lines? [Re: oliver]
DeadFire
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Registered: 30/05/2002
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I'm just letting you know that I had also noticed it. So don't worry, nothing is wrong with your player; it's just a side effect that appears when using some colored (or clear) lenses with that vacuum flourescent display.

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#118757 - 01/10/2002 10:09 Re: Horizontal display lines? [Re: chango]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
I notice that they dont have the reflective sort of backing that the official lenses have so you can see horizontal lines from the display

The reflective backing on the official lenses have nothing to do with visibility. That reflective backing is for electromagnetic filtering only, it does not affect the way you can see into the front of the player.

The reason you can see the filament wires better is because, by using DarkStorm's lens, you have changed the color and the opacity of the lens. You didn't say which lens you got, but I'm guessing it was a Smoke or perhaps one of the lighter shades.

The filament wires glow a reddish shade, so dark blue or green shaded lenses will make the filaments basically invisible. But a smoke, red, or amber lens will make the filaments show up more clearly.
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#118758 - 01/10/2002 13:15 Re: Horizontal display lines? [Re: chango]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
I doubt that the cross wires would "glow" at the same colour/intensity as the pixel matrix behind the lense. This would imply a defect, and with EFT it cannot happen that way anyway!

It is more likely that you are seeing the wires with the display settings at a low intensity, ie. you have the dimmer setting quite low. What do you have it set to? Also, is this when you have the car headlights on in the car, or in the house?
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