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#123355 - 28/10/2002 11:34 Real Audio codec?
errol
journeyman

Registered: 08/08/2002
Posts: 57
Has anyone done any work towards implementing a real audio codec in the player software? Can codecs simply be plugged into the player, or does it require hacking into the player software?

The reason I would like to play real audio files is because there are radio programs that archive their broadcasts in real audio format, and it would be nice to be able to copy those to the empeg directly. I know that the other option is first to convert them to mp3, but of course that would be time consuming.

Is there anyone else doing this kind of thing?

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#123356 - 28/10/2002 11:36 Re: Real Audio codec? [Re: errol]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31583
Loc: Seattle, WA
It would be nice, but RealAudio requires paying a license to the Real people in order to use it. And since it's not a file format usually associated with high-quality music playback, there is not much demand to put it on our high-quality music player.

You can use a product like TotalRecorder to change RealAudio into some other file format.
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#123357 - 28/10/2002 14:50 Re: Real Audio codec? [Re: tfabris]
revlmwest
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Registered: 05/06/2002
Posts: 497
Loc: Hartsville, South Carolina for...
So if I'm not a Real person does that mean I'm not a real person.
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#123358 - 28/10/2002 16:28 Re: Real Audio codec? [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
    RealAudio requires paying a license to the Real people in order to use it.
I would suggest that you might get best results by obtaining your license from either Sarah Purcell or Skip Stephenson.
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#123359 - 28/10/2002 16:42 Re: Real Audio codec? [Re: wfaulk]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31583
Loc: Seattle, WA
Oh, my goodness, Bitt, if that's the reference I think it is, I'm ashamed to admit that I even know what you're talking about.

(Was one of my favorite shows as a kid.)
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#123360 - 28/10/2002 16:44 Re: Real Audio codec? [Re: tfabris]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31583
Loc: Seattle, WA
Yup, right here.

Wow, that's a trip down memory lane. God, how could I have liked something that was so awful? Wait, I know. First of all, I was a kid. Second of all, pretty much all television sucked in the 70's and we had to get our entertainment where we could get it.
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#123361 - 28/10/2002 17:32 Re: Real Audio codec? [Re: tfabris]
Ezekiel
pooh-bah

Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
I watched that show every week. It really was the best thing on, until the A-Team came around.

-Zeke
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#123362 - 28/10/2002 18:32 Re: Real Audio codec? [Re: Ezekiel]
tracerbullet
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Registered: 08/01/2002
Posts: 419
Loc: Minnesota
Real People was always followed by That's Incredible, I watched both every time they were on I think. I had the hots for Sarah Purcell I think, hard to remember that age much.

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#123363 - 28/10/2002 21:14 Re: Real Audio codec? [Re: tfabris]
Dignan
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12320
Loc: Sterling, VA
Somewhat related to the original topic, is there another less bloated and ad-laden program out there (preferably free) that can play Real files (not fake ones). I despise Real Player/Jukebox/everything. Heck, if I could play them in WMP6 I would be ecstatic. I tried downloading a plugin for Winamp, but it didn't work at all.

Damn all those people who encode in RM. Argh!
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#123364 - 28/10/2002 21:35 Re: Real Audio codec? [Re: Dignan]
Ezekiel
pooh-bah

Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
I found this:
http://www.onestopsoft.com/audio-converter.html

looks like the right critter, except for the $29 part (there is a d/l link but I didn't look too hard to see if it's nag/share/whatever-ware).

-Zeke
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#123365 - 28/10/2002 22:06 Re: Real Audio codec? [Re: Dignan]
dcosta
enthusiast

Registered: 04/02/2002
Posts: 277
Loc: Massachussetts
I had a Real plugin for winamp once,
it worled great.

2 step process to conver to mp3 though.
.rm to .wav to .mp3,
but still, painless. keep looking, it's out there.
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#123366 - 29/10/2002 00:41 Re: Real Audio codec? [Re: dcosta]
JeepBastard
enthusiast

Registered: 08/09/1999
Posts: 364
Loc: Brooklyn
I think we would rather have a video codec than real codec. Real sucks and costs money.

I have nightmares about That's Incredible for some reason.
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#123367 - 29/10/2002 05:15 Re: Real Audio codec? [Re: errol]
David
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Registered: 05/05/2000
Posts: 623
Loc: Cambridge
There is a clone RealAudio decoder for Risc OS, which I believe is writen in assembler, but I don't think it supports recent file formats. Porting it might be a nice project for someone into that kind of thing.

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#123368 - 29/10/2002 09:18 Re: Real Audio codec? [Re: David]
jbauer
veteran

Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
BTW, Real has announced today that they are releasing their source code for RealOne to the public...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1211&e=2&cid=1093&u=/pcworld/20021029/tc_pcworld/106457

- Jon

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#123369 - 29/10/2002 17:26 Re: Real Audio codec? [Re: jbauer]
tman
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
Real aren't releasing the source code for their codecs however. It's pretty much only the RealOne GUI that is being open sourced. So unless they've got some freely usable codec implementation for ARM processors, we're out of luck

- Trevor

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#123370 - 30/10/2002 04:10 Re: Real Audio codec? [Re: tman]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Real use ATRAC3 for their high bandwidth codec, and I doubt Sony will open source their format. This may not be a big problem, however, as Real are said to be releasing precompiled codecs for popular systems. ARM is certain to feature in that.

Rob

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