#126247 - 22/11/2002 16:42
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: FireFox31]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
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Oh, I wouldn't worry about the Phatbox. We have things up our sleeve that we've been working on for many years, which are soon to be revealed to the world.
Ooo, I love being cryptic.
Hugo
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#126248 - 22/11/2002 17:28
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: altman]
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journeyman
Registered: 19/11/2002
Posts: 55
Loc: Omaha, NE
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Heh... empeg MK3? Patrick shipping the tuner kits!? I can hear the gears of the rumormill grinding now.
I bet it's some sort of AI that fits into a 5cm cube and stores 300 gig of music...
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#126249 - 22/11/2002 18:37
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: altman]
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stranger
Registered: 01/07/2001
Posts: 42
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/Ooo, I love being cryptic
Yeh, let me translate: Vaporware
SCNR 
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#126250 - 22/11/2002 19:14
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: altman]
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old hand
Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
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Ooo, I love being cryptic.
Yes you and Rob seem to enjoy it too much ! ;-)
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#126251 - 22/11/2002 20:37
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: phat_slug]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
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Yeh, let me translate: Vaporware
So where can I buy one of those much heralded (and then never mentioned again) Visteon Phatbox products?
Rob
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#126252 - 23/11/2002 04:51
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: rob]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
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Actually, Phatnoise offer the "ford" edition now. Not sure if that's a visteon box or not, though. Nothing new over the old Phatbox design, though.
As for "vapourware", it's rather more "secretware" - we've had many new car products which have never been shown publically (though they've appeared at many specialist automotive industry shows, without our name on them). One or two will appear at CES, though...
Hugo
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#126253 - 23/11/2002 09:10
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: altman]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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One or two will appear at CES, though
That's what I was waiting to hear.
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#126254 - 23/11/2002 12:56
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: altman]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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Man, can't you auction those prototypes to your loyal followers here on the board! I've ALWAYS wanted a working prototype of something cool. Think about it, one of a kind! (or, few of a kind).
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#126255 - 23/11/2002 13:17
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: FireFox31]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
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If they were available I'd already have one in my car!
Rob
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#126256 - 24/11/2002 18:08
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: rob]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
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It does get hard, wiping the drool from prototypes on an almost daily basis... even the customers drool over them and they're not strictly geeks
Hugo
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#126257 - 24/11/2002 20:07
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: altman]
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old hand
Registered: 14/02/2002
Posts: 804
Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
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You two are truly horrible! Constantly dangling a carrot in front of us!
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#126258 - 24/11/2002 22:45
Wait or get a Phatbox?????????????????????
[Re: altman]
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member
Registered: 06/02/2002
Posts: 149
Loc: SF
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So taunted by all the "leg" of a new "car type" (maybe) device from rio/empeg/altman et al........should we all wait (till CES at LEAST), or buy whats available today thet fits the (really overpriced) AudiBMWVW set with their non standard radios and associated signal processing complications??????
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#126259 - 25/11/2002 04:39
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: altman]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/05/2001
Posts: 2616
Loc: Bruges, Belgium
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When is CES again? Wasn't that the beginning of january ?
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#126260 - 25/11/2002 10:58
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: altman]
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enthusiast
Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 345
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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Hugo,
will you be at CES this year? Do you know the booth # that will be showing off these products? I'm going to attend this year in Las Vegas.
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#126261 - 25/11/2002 11:00
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: altman]
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enthusiast
Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 345
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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are these "new" things complete new products, or empeg related upgrades? ;-)
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#126262 - 25/11/2002 11:30
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: CHiP]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
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- Complete new products, not empeg upgrades.
- I'm not yet sure if I'll be at CES (if I am, I'll be there the last 2 days as I'm snowboarding immediately before it, in France)
- I can't tell you the booth # as that would give the game away as to who we've been working with...
Hugo
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#126263 - 25/11/2002 11:39
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: altman]
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journeyman
Registered: 27/09/2000
Posts: 89
Loc: California, USA
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Once CES begins, will you be able to reveil who the partners are?
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#126264 - 25/11/2002 11:51
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: jarredduq]
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enthusiast
Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 345
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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yes, if so, let us know just before, and we'll check it out.
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#126265 - 25/11/2002 12:02
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: jarredduq]
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carpal tunnel
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#126266 - 25/11/2002 17:13
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: altman]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
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I think I saw tech tv talking about a pda esque device devloped with sonicblue and intel. Now I can't find it on their website so maybe I dreamed it or something.
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#126267 - 26/11/2002 06:37
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: msaeger]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
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The PVP - personal video player. There's a thread about it somewhere on the BBS.
Rob
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#126268 - 26/11/2002 11:33
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: jarredduq]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 06/10/1999
Posts: 2591
Loc: Seattle, WA, U.S.A.
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Once CES begins, will you be able to reveil who the partners are?
No one who really knows can answer that question until CES, but, in a serious effort to avoid real work, I couldn't help flipping through the CES exhibitor list and cooking up a speculative list:
Kenwood, Pioneer, Sony: Unlikely. Already have offerings. Pioneer I could see.
Harmon Kardon, Klipsch, Marantz, Polk, Rockford Fosgate, Sanyo: Either a small/modest presence in mobile audio or not a very big company overall.
Delphi: Are they still GM-oriented?
Visteon: Why not? My number 3 pick.
Nakamichi: Doesn't seem like their style
Panasonic, Clarion, Jensen: My 1st, 2nd, and distant 4th pick.
I am of course prepared to be *completely* surprised!!
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#126269 - 26/11/2002 12:01
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: jimhogan]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Methinks Jim might be looking in the wrong category for guessing at partners.
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#126270 - 26/11/2002 12:24
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 06/10/1999
Posts: 2591
Loc: Seattle, WA, U.S.A.
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Methinks Jim might be looking in the wrong category for guessing at partners.
Well hot dog, another clue!
I may have over/misinterpreted from Hugo's "- Complete new products, not empeg upgrades. " that at least some of the partnership was for mobile/car audio.
Dang! Now I'll have to avoid real work some more and go through that list *again*.
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#126271 - 26/11/2002 15:40
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: jimhogan]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
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Tony is contributing guesses, not clues 
Rob
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#126272 - 26/11/2002 15:44
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: rob]
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#126273 - 26/11/2002 15:48
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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Ooh! Are there any washing machine manufacturers listed?!?
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#126274 - 26/11/2002 16:48
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: wfaulk]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
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LOL....front or top loading??
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#126275 - 26/11/2002 17:05
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: genixia]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
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We all know they're british, and they only use front loaders over there.
I've got to say I'm looking forward to my car dockable iPod killer.
Matthew
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#126276 - 03/12/2002 02:49
Re: PhatBox review from an empeg owner
[Re: altman]
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member
Registered: 03/12/2002
Posts: 119
Loc: Stratdord-upon-Avon, UK
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I always give them back to you wiped clean of any drool!!
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