I read the FAQ and it says to play through the windows sound mixer applet.. I have done a search to locate this file/ folder with no luck.. do I need a program to run first??? Thanks

If your sound card is properly installed and working, it should be in the Windows System Tray, next to the clock. It is a small yellow speaker icon:



If this icon isn't there, you need to enable it. Unfortunately, the process to enable it is different for each version of Windows. What version of Windows are you running?

It's the sound icon by the clock that lets you adjust volume. Double click it and it will open your mixing panel. If you don't have a slider for "Line In", open the Options -> Properties menu and check the box for Line In.

I am running xp Would it be called Winampagent?
Thanks

Argh, I dunno how to do it in XP. Never touch the POS.

Anyone else know?

XP one looks like this.



Also it's not necessarily displayed in the system tray. You can turn it off. It is on by default though...

So does sound work at all on any program?

BTW: Calling XP a POS is fairly harsh. I'm no Bill Gates lover (in fact some of it completely sh**s me off), but it is quite reliable in my experience. Then again I don't install crap and am careful about what I do. I managed to have 98 install last for over 3 years on my old work PC used pretty much every day.

Windows 2000 has all the reliability and stability that XP does, but without the extra bloat, without the Fischer-Price skin, without the buggy USB driver layer, and without the extensive list of incompatibilities with legacy hardware.

Xp came wtih the computer. I get sound when I play cd's through any other progam. I just got a job that is home based so I thought I would try to hook the empeg up while I am "working" I think I found it, it was checked "mute"
Thanks.. sorry about bringing up XP

Windows 2000 has all the reliability and stability that XP does, but without the extra bloat, without the Fischer-Price skin, without the buggy USB driver layer, and without the extensive list of incompatibilities with legacy hardware.

For a bloated OS, it sure is a lot faster than 2000..

Rob

the buggy USB driver layer

The USB driver layer is less buggy. What it is is more anal, so buggy drivers get cut a lot less slack. This is a Good Thing, mostly.

incompatibilities with legacy hardware

So get rid of your legacy hardware. What are you using that's so old anyway?

incompatibilities with legacy hardware

So get rid of your legacy hardware. What are you using that's so old anyway?

Yeah, take that car stereo of yours, for instance: I've heard they aren't even made any more.

Peter

Yeah, take that car stereo of yours, for instance: I've heard they aren't even made any more.

I heard they fixed the USB driver for Windows XP, though.

If i remember correctly he was trying to use a 10 year old ISA network card. Now, it's not that I've got anything against the venerable 3c509 card or the ISA bus, but it's place in a windows XP installation is questionable.

Matthew

Why? Is there something wrong with it? Sometimes a 10BaseT card is appropriate. It's not as if the ISA bus is restricting its bandwidth, and his motherboard obviously has an ISA slot. I'll bet every other general purpose OS on the planet that supports ethernet cards supports the 3c509.

I'd disagree. One of the major complaints about windows is bloat, not unsuported hardware. You've got to draw a line somewhere and say you're not supporting old hardware. If windows XP was an operating system renowned for it's ability to turn any ten year old PC into a great router, then it'd be a gross oversight. Seeing as it's a desktop OS for modern computers, not supporting hardware that's 10 years old isn't a bad decision if it can lead to more time being spent on improving the OS' stability or even just gauranteeing that installing a network card will be plug-n-play.

Matthew

I'll admit that I'm not familar with Windows kernel architecture, but having a lodable module that supported the 3c509 that's not loaded when it's not needed would hardly be bloat. If Windows is monolithic enough that it can't do that, then it's even more decrepit than I'd previously thought.

I'll admit that I'm not familar with Windows kernel architecture, but having a lodable module that supported the 3c509 that's not loaded when it's not needed would hardly be bloat.

Well, I think we're talking two definitions of bloat. Yours is: useless software running in memory. His, I think was: Too much disk space occupied by useless files.

Me, I consider *both* to be bloat, but the real story on the 3c509 under XP is worse than that. If I recall correctly, here's what happened: XP does in fact include a driver that works with the 3c509 on the hard disk. They just disable ISA plug-n-play cards in the .INF file because they're being snarky about trying to kill off ISA cards. So you have the driver, you just can't install the driver. Steal an .INF file from Windows 2000, and you're good to go.

At least that's my recollection. It could have been more complicated than that, I don't remember exactly now.

Well, I think we're talking two definitions of bloat. Yours is: useless software running in memory. His, I think was: Too much disk space occupied by useless files.

So don't even install it unless it's being used. Keep it on the install media and have it require you to insert it when you install a card for which it doesn't currently have a driver. For God's sake, it makes you do that most of the time to copy over files it's already got when you change an IP address, or something else equally innocuous.

Ah, yep, my recollection was correct:

http://empeg.comms.net/php/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=offtopic&Number=115566

At least that's my recollection. It could have been more complicated than that, I don't remember exactly now.

I'll back you up on that. I definitely recall hearing that. So, who wants to buy my EISA 3C509?

i'm surprised that you're even able to run winxp on a motherboard that has an ISA card slot on it... wasn't that phased out by manafacturers in the P3 era?

I'm currently using a Tyan dual P2-600 motherboard that has AGP, PCI and ISA slots running WinXP - it works fine.