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#145450 - 24/02/2003 11:29 Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!)
Scorp1us
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Registered: 03/01/2002
Posts: 76
All of the Ogg requests look to be about 6 months old. Is there any news in this area? The reason why I ask is because the first commerical device with Linux and Ogg is out as of March 1, with Ogg support coming in May. See http://neurosaudio.com/

I am eagerly waiting for Ogg!!

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#145451 - 24/02/2003 11:42 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: Scorp1us]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
I'd say the car player is commercial (even if no longer manufacturered), runs Linux, has been out for almost four years, and will have Ogg before May.

Rob

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#145452 - 24/02/2003 11:44 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: rob]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
w00t!
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#145453 - 24/02/2003 11:55 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: wfaulk]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
w00t!

Seconded. emphatically.
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#145454 - 24/02/2003 12:25 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: rob]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
Argh, Rob, you know how much trouble you get into in every time you give a date.
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#145455 - 25/02/2003 03:54 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: tfabris]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
We could release it tomorrow if we wanted - but I think it would be prudent to do a little testing, considering nobody has run a car player trunk build in the last year or two.

Rob

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#145456 - 25/02/2003 06:24 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: rob]
xanatos
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Registered: 08/03/2001
Posts: 202
Loc: Denver, CO
I love you rob.

I guess now that there's some sort of news, time to start reencdoing!

*busts out the cup o' coffee*
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#145457 - 25/02/2003 07:13 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: rob]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
mmmmm.... new software tomorrow
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#145458 - 25/02/2003 08:07 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: rob]
genixia
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Registered: 08/02/2002
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considering nobody has run a car player trunk build in the last year or two.


If I understand that correctly, everyone at Empeg Towers has been running software from a development trunk for that long?

I hope so...

<Me goes off to fantasise about 3.0beta1>
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#145459 - 25/02/2003 08:41 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: genixia]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
2.0 is on a branch. The trunk is used to build other projects, but by the magic of autobuilders and nag scripts the car continues to build successfully. It even seems to run.

Rob

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#145460 - 25/02/2003 08:53 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: rob]
tonyc
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Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
2.0 is on a branch. The trunk is used to build other projects, but by the magic of autobuilders and nag scripts the car continues to build successfully. It even seems to run.


Ship it!
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#145461 - 25/02/2003 12:00 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: rob]
Scorp1us
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Registered: 03/01/2002
Posts: 76
Thank you ROB!!! You all rule. I had doubts that it would ever happen. At least now I can start re-encoding everything and know it's not going to be wasted.

A lot of my MP3s are [censored] (note: that's a technical term, look for unfuck.exe on google) or are getting there.

WOOT!

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#145462 - 26/02/2003 14:42 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: Scorp1us]
Scorp1us
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Registered: 03/01/2002
Posts: 76
Hey Rob, (or anyone that knows) what's the CPU usage like between the two formats?

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#145463 - 26/02/2003 17:55 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: Scorp1us]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
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From what I remember, it's actually more processor intensive to decode Ogg Vorbis than MP3. But that also could be because there are more optimised assembler versions of the MP3 codec available.

- Trevor

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#145464 - 26/02/2003 19:47 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: tman]
Scorp1us
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Registered: 03/01/2002
Posts: 76
That's not nessesarily a bad thing. If it sounds better, and you have some to spare, then it's a good thing, because hopefully, (and seemingly) the processing power is proportional to audio quality.

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#145465 - 28/02/2003 08:25 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: tonyc]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
"Build succeeded" was always good enough for the jEmplode team Why not the Empeg team too?

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#145466 - 13/03/2003 18:51 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: mschrag]
Scorp1us
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Registered: 03/01/2002
Posts: 76
If it compiles, then it's correct. ;-)


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#145467 - 17/03/2003 07:42 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: Scorp1us]
JeffS
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2858
Loc: Atlanta, GA
If it compiles, then it's correct.

Don't get me started on this one! I got so angry in school where we'd have test on computers and the guy next to me complained that he got a "B" because his program compiled, never mind it didn't do what the assignment said. Meanwhile we'd get these written tests where we'd have to write the code down by hand. I got downgraded to a "B" because I left off a few semicolons, never mind that I had the logic right.
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#145468 - 17/03/2003 15:12 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: JeffS]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
Those are the dumbest kinds of tests ... Why would you test a human on a compiler's job? That's why we have compilers.

Oh well.

ms

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#145469 - 30/05/2003 19:03 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: rob]
Scorp1us
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Registered: 03/01/2002
Posts: 76
"I'd say the car player is commercial (even if no longer manufacturered), runs Linux, has been out for almost four years, and will have Ogg before May."

Um, May is over in 2 hours for me. I know begger's can't be choosers, but can we get an ETA for the beta containing Ogg?

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#145470 - 30/05/2003 19:10 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: Scorp1us]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14492
Loc: Canada
No one said you would have Ogg by May..

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#145471 - 30/05/2003 22:29 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: mlord]
Shonky
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Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
So Mark, are you allowed to comment on how the 3.0 alpha looks?

Come on please! Pretty please!
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#145472 - 31/05/2003 21:21 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: Shonky]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
So Mark, are you allowed to comment on how the 3.0 alpha looks?
Only if he kills you afterward.
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#145473 - 01/06/2003 00:08 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: tfabris]
xanatos
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Registered: 08/03/2001
Posts: 202
Loc: Denver, CO
Only if he kills you afterward.

/me loads his gun
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#145474 - 01/06/2003 02:17 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: Shonky]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
The released 3.0 alpha is pretty bad, but internally I believe it is much better now - time for another release I guess.

As for public releases, I'm tossing around this idea of bringing a stack of CD's to Amersfoort this year..

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#145475 - 01/06/2003 03:55 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: rob]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
*grumble* Not fair for people that can't make it to the meet!

- Trevor

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#145476 - 01/06/2003 16:42 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: rob]
Shonky
pooh-bah

Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
In reply to:

I'm tossing around this idea of bringing a stack of CD's to Amersfoort this year



Please don't tease
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#40104192 120Gb (no longer in my E36 M3, won't fit the E46 M3)

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#145477 - 02/06/2003 06:43 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: Shonky]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Anything released at Amersfoort will be released to the web afterwards, if it is considered to be stable enough!

Rob

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#145478 - 06/06/2003 04:35 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: rob]
GyroTech
new poster

Registered: 02/07/2002
Posts: 6
Loc: Luton, UK
i'm just waiting on my RioCar to support Ogg so i can re-rip my entire music collection (LPs included).

Can we have a 3.00-beta1 on the webby??
it's still on 2.00-beta13 even though 2.00full is already out.

please don't make me pout...

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#145479 - 06/06/2003 06:54 Re: Yet Another Ogg Request (Please!) [Re: GyroTech]
JeffS
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2858
Loc: Atlanta, GA
I don't think you're going to see a beta version if they're still having trouble with the alpha. Based on what Rob's said it looks like we might only have a little longer to wait, though.
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