#16022 - 29/08/2000 22:02
Airport Help
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Registered: 30/09/1999
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Ok while waiting on my Mk2 to ship, my Airport and Lucent Gold card showed up. I have been trying to make these two devices work together. Anyone have any help they can offer. I was hoping it was gonna be out of the box working. I have three machines on a network now. I was trying to hook the Airport to the hub and put the WaveLan card in another PC(fourth machine). But I am not having any luck here. I realize the Airport will be in the car once the MK2 shows up, but was trying to get a fourth computer online also. Wireless of coarse. Anyone who has some experience here would be helpful.
TIA
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#16023 - 30/08/2000 02:12
Re: Airport Help
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/05/1999
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Loc: Palo Alto, CA
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You need to put the network ID from the airport into the wavelan software so that it signs onto the right network, otherwise nothing will happen at all. I can't remember how to do this, but the docs with the lucent stuff were pretty clear as I remember.
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#16024 - 30/08/2000 03:38
Re: Airport Help
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member
Registered: 09/06/1999
Posts: 197
Loc: Germany
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Just curious -> What did you pay for both, and where did you buy it ...
And when you got it installed, please tell me, what the max throughput is ...
Thank you:
Nils
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#16025 - 30/08/2000 06:57
Re: Airport Help
[Re: Nils]
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journeyman
Registered: 24/08/2000
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Loc: NZ
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I'm curious too as I'm going to be doing the same thing.
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#16027 - 30/08/2000 20:11
Re: Airport Help
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Registered: 04/08/2000
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I still a little confused. I already have a home network with multiple computers, enet printers, and a
firewall/DHCP/NAT appliance to a cable modem.
If I get the Airport and a pc card to plug into my Windows system, won't I have to route between
the wireless network and my home network in my windows system? won't the windows system
have two networks now? How do I route between the 2 networks? My mp3 files and emplode
may not run on the system with the wireless network card.
Also, on a separate note, with an airport in the car, do you leave it powered on all the time?
How much power might it drain from the battery?
thanks.
-gbeck
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#16028 - 30/08/2000 20:15
Re: Airport Help
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Registered: 16/06/1999
Posts: 1222
Loc: San Francisco, CA
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In reply to:
If I get the Airport and a pc card to plug into my Windows system, won't I have to route between
the wireless network and my home network in my windows system? won't the windows system
Yes you would.. There's two ways that you can do this.. The first way is to get a pci wireless card (or the pcmcia wireless card and a pcmcia adapter), and place this alongside a regular nic in your desktop - then the desktop could act as a bridge between the wired and the wireless network..
The second (and better) way is to hook up the apple airprot inside your house, and purchase a wireless ethernet adapter (Lucent makes one for ~$220, plus the cost of a regular wireless card), use the ethernet adapter (it accepts a pcmcia card, and has a plug to plugin a cat-5 10baseT cord, such as from the empeg..)on empeg, and the airport base in the house..
Expensive, but it'll work... the first method shouldn't cost too much...
-mark
...proud to have owned one of the first Mark I units
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#16029 - 30/08/2000 20:31
Re: Airport Help
[Re: dionysus]
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Registered: 04/08/2000
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Got it, looks like it should work.
About placement of the wireless box in the car, the most likely location is the forward luggage compartment
on my Boxster. Anyone tried doing this from inside a trunk? while it is seemingly surrounded by metal,
and might block the signal, there are gaps where a signal should get through. But in practice, I don't
know if this will work or not. Leaving the converter box in the cockpit would be unsightly...
-gbeck
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#16030 - 30/08/2000 20:34
Re: Airport Help
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Registered: 16/06/1999
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Loc: San Francisco, CA
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you should be ok, depending on how much distance there is between your car/computer... In my experience, the lucent cards can go through almost anything:)
-mark
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#16031 - 30/08/2000 23:23
Re: Airport Help
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Here's what I've been wondering for a long time...
If you guys are sticking airports in your cars, these require a 10baseT cable connected to the Empeg, right? But there's no 10baseT on the sled. How are you getting the plug into and out of the Empeg easily when you insert and remove it from the car?
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#16032 - 31/08/2000 04:50
Re: Airport Help
[Re: tfabris]
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enthusiast
Registered: 18/08/1999
Posts: 202
Loc: philadelphia pa
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thank you tony. this has been bugging me for a long time, but i never bothered to ask it. also, probably a stupid question, but how do you hook up a wireless card to a device (the empeg) which already has a network card? is this adapter thing just something that lets you plug a wireless card into a wired network card?
thanks,
jeremy
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#16033 - 31/08/2000 06:40
Re: Airport Help
[Re: jstrain]
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Registered: 16/06/1999
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Loc: San Francisco, CA
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The ethernet <-> wireless adapters do just that... and tony, I had in mind just having the cable have an extra feet or so of slack on it and hooking/unhooking it manually:(
-mark
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#16034 - 31/08/2000 07:54
Re: Airport Help
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 04/08/2000
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In reply to:
this has been bugging me for a long time, but i never bothered to ask it. also, probably a stupid question, but how do you hook up a wireless
card to a device (the empeg) which already has a network card? is this adapter thing just something that lets you plug a wireless card into a wired network
card?
Well, I don't actually have an Empeg yet, still waiting for call...
I assume that either the sled has a cutout where the ethernet connector is on the
rear of the Empeg, or, that proper application of a drill can make a cutout for
the ethernet connector. Then, it's merely a problem of leaving a sufficient service
loop on the Enet cable to unplug it when the Empeg is undocked from the car.
At least, this is my hope. If someone actually has one that could confirm this,
that would be helpful. I assume since some have reported doing this that it
is physically possible.
-gbeck
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#16035 - 31/08/2000 08:14
Re: Airport Help
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addict
Registered: 09/06/1999
Posts: 483
Loc: Guernsey
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There is a long slot in the cage where the USB and Ethernet connectors are, so it shouldn't be a problem (you might want to put some elastic or the like on the cable to help gently pull it back as the empeg is slid into the cage)
Jazz
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#16036 - 31/08/2000 09:48
Re: Airport Help
[Re: dionysus]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I had in mind just having the cable have an extra feet or so of slack on it and hooking/unhooking it manually
Yeah, I guess if the cable was stiff enough, it wouldn't fold up and get crushed as you inserted the Empeg. But you'd have to get pretty stiff cat-5 cable for that purpose...
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#16037 - 31/08/2000 11:11
Re: Airport Help
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 23/08/2000
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OR... you could rig it up so that the plug is aligned and would slot in similar to the larger connector when you slide the Empeg in. You would have to figure a way to secure the RJ-45 jack to the sled, and you could just break the lock tab off the connector so that it would just slide in and out. I think it's definately doable!! Damn you guys.. you are putting to many ideas into my head!!
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