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#166364 - 18/06/2003 19:21 new rifle
Anonymous
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Here's my new rifle. I got it from www.aimsurplus.com for $320. It's an AK-47 type rifle. It's imported from Romania and is their version of the AK, called the SAR-1.




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#166365 - 18/06/2003 20:41 Re: new rifle [Re: ]
tonyc
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Geez, could you at least crop your feets out of the picture next time? You never know when someone's going to be eating while browsing the BBS...
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#166366 - 18/06/2003 20:44 Re: new rifle [Re: tonyc]
DeadFire
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I was eating when I read this thread.

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#166367 - 18/06/2003 20:47 Re: new rifle [Re: DeadFire]
tonyc
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Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Hope you managed to at least hit the trash can...
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#166368 - 18/06/2003 20:52 Re: new rifle [Re: ]
fusto
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Registered: 27/12/2001
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Loc: Lummi Island, WA
Does your bathrobe/boxer shorts have satin trim?!

Didnt think you were the fancy type.
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#166369 - 18/06/2003 21:16 Re: new rifle [Re: ]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
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Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Is there someplace you can legally shoot that ?
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#166370 - 18/06/2003 22:49 Re: new rifle [Re: msaeger]
muzza
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#166371 - 18/06/2003 23:13 Re: new rifle [Re: msaeger]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
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Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
Is there someplace you can legally shoot that ?

The USA ?
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#166372 - 18/06/2003 23:45 Re: new rifle [Re: andy]
msaeger
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Yeah

I am don't think that shooting ranges would let you. I'm guessing it was purchased for a collectable not to be fired but I am curious anyway.
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#166373 - 19/06/2003 00:01 Re: new rifle [Re: msaeger]
canuckInOR
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Registered: 13/02/2002
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Loc: Portland, OR
I am don't think that shooting ranges would let you.


Shooting ranges will let you shoot pretty much anything there, provided they have the setup to allow it safely.

I'm guessing it was purchased for a collectable not to be fired


Bwahahahaha! /me wipes tears from my eyes.
This is d33zy, here. Let's see...


How long till d33zy shoots the gun
Never, it's a collectible
Next month
This weekend, after he gets some ammo
Right after work -- he's had the ammo for months, now
As soon as he's done posting the pics here
He 'shot his gun' just opening the parcel.


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#166374 - 19/06/2003 01:10 Re: new rifle [Re: ]
thinfourth2
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Registered: 13/04/2001
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Hairy toes Nice
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#166375 - 19/06/2003 06:14 Re: new rifle [Re: tonyc]
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Geez, could you at least crop your feets out of the picture next time?

Hairy toes Nice

Well I am a troll, right?
Is there someplace you can legally shoot that ?

Yeah, shooting ranges. Or out in the country as long as you're not tresspassing.
I'm guessing it was purchased for a collectable not to be fired but I am curious anyway.

It will definitely be fired. It is a legal gun - it's not fully automatic, just semi-automatic. It was manufactured in 2003 in Romania and imported here with 5 parts replaced with US made parts to meet federal regulations (the ATF only allows a certain number of parts per gun to be imported. why? I don't know). It is illegal in California though. They have no right to bear arms in the CA constitution, so they can ban whatever they want.
How long till d33zy shoots the gun
-Never, it's a collectible
-Next month
-This weekend, after he gets some ammo
-Right after work -- he's had the ammo for months, now
-As soon as he's done posting the pics here
-He 'shot his gun' just opening the parcel.

Number 3.


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#166376 - 19/06/2003 08:00 Re: new rifle [Re: ]
pgrzelak
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Greetings!

I think it might also be illegal in NJ because of the size of the clip.
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#166377 - 19/06/2003 08:35 Re: new rifle [Re: ]
blitz
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Registered: 20/11/2001
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Loc: Texas
I own a Bushmaster AR15 and after the new wears off, it is really kind of boring. I would much rather shoot bolt action rifles (preferably a Winchester .308) to see what kind of groupings I can get. More of a challenge than just blasting away with a semiauto.

If you really want a rifle buy this.

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#166378 - 19/06/2003 09:44 Re: new rifle [Re: ]
bonzi
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They probably replaced those parts to make it semi-automatic - the original is fully automatic. BTW, a friend in army tells me that this Romanian versions of AK-47 are the worst weapons (from the standpoint of quality of manufacture and material, e.g. barell) he has ever seen... As always, YMMV...
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#166379 - 19/06/2003 10:07 Re: new rifle [Re: ]
andym
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Posts: 3995
Loc: Manchester UK
Congrats on your new toy!!!

Wow, haven't said that for a while!
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#166380 - 19/06/2003 10:51 Re: new rifle [Re: blitz]
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Registered: 18/08/2000
Posts: 992
Loc: Georgetown, TX USA
I've got a Mini-14 and it's fun for plinking, but expensive plinking. My two M1 Garands are my favorites. I have an M1-D (sniper version) and a regular issue M1 both from the Civilian Marksmanship Program After you lug this around the range, it gives a newfound respect for what the guys in WWII and Korea had deal with... The M1 is HEAVY by today's firearm standards... One cool thing is you can reference the serial numbers of parts to see what era they were made. One of my receviers is 1943, so it more than likely saw action in WWII. Most of the parts on mine are Korean War era, though. And for open sights, incredible accurracy with these guns...
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#166381 - 19/06/2003 13:47 Re: new rifle [Re: davec]
blitz
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Registered: 20/11/2001
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Loc: Texas
I put this scope on my AR15. The tritium reticle glows at night. Calibrated for the .223 out to 800 yards (bullet drop scale).

Dirt cheap to shoot at 1000 rds for $80.

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#166382 - 19/06/2003 14:03 Re: new rifle [Re: davec]
Redrum
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Registered: 17/01/2003
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I have a mint Model 1917 (very HEAVY) my parents bought from the Montgomery Ward in about 1950 as army surplus. Where can I find out what year it was made?

Thanks


Edited by Redrum (19/06/2003 14:11)

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#166383 - 19/06/2003 14:10 Re: new rifle [Re: ]
Redrum
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Nice gun, my SKS (Chinese AK rip-off) is one of my favorite guns.

You can get amo at some guns shows pretty cheap. You can burn up a lot with a 30 round clip, but man its fun.

I got some NATO rounds (I think) that had a steel center covered by copper. Those will shoot through a 3/8 inch steel plate like a drill! It would almost go through ½ inch.

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#166384 - 19/06/2003 14:23 Re: new rifle [Re: Redrum]
davec
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Registered: 18/08/2000
Posts: 992
Loc: Georgetown, TX USA
I don't know anything about the (?Enfield?)1917, rec.guns newsgroup people might be able to help. It's just that there is so much documentation on, and so many people into the M1 Garand that the info is readily available. I would think there is lots about the 1917 as well just gotta find the people...
That's interesting that Montgomery Ward sold Army surplus guns in the 50's, though...

EDIT Try this site I saw a few threads where someone can give info on dates made.


Edited by davec (19/06/2003 14:33)
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#166385 - 19/06/2003 14:29 Re: new rifle [Re: blitz]
davec
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Registered: 18/08/2000
Posts: 992
Loc: Georgetown, TX USA
I haven't done much shooting since I left AZ. Out there you just go to BLM land and blast away. Texas is mostly private land, and I can't see paying up to $12/hr to shoot high-power rifles at a 50 yard indoor range... So I go fishing...

Though a scope like that would be cool, I have the regular old Bushnell 3x8 on my Mini-14. The M1-D has an M-83 scope. and all the cleaning rod, grease tubes, etc. It was a real treat to win the option to buy it for only $600. I entered the M1-D lottery in the CMP with two months left and got drawn... All the equipment was still sealed in bags from 1968 when they refurb'ed it and put it in the rack. I've been told it'd easily get over $2k with the CMP paperwork...
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#166386 - 19/06/2003 14:36 Re: new rifle [Re: davec]
blitz
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Registered: 20/11/2001
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Texas is mostly private land

I live in TX also but I have lots of land available to me on which to hunt and shoot.

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#166387 - 19/06/2003 16:24 Re: new rifle [Re: bonzi]
acurasquirrel_
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Registered: 14/04/2002
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Yeah I got to shoot a Romanian AK-47 and let me tell you the thing was a piece of junk. You could usually get about 12 rounds off in succession (semi-auto) before it jammed and then you had to take it apart to remove the bullet because the spring wouldnt do it job once it got hot. And accuracy was pitful. Id rather shoot a 30-06 or a 12 gauge anyday.
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#166388 - 19/06/2003 17:12 Re: new rifle [Re: acurasquirrel_]
Redrum
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Registered: 17/01/2003
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Man, raging on the guy's new gun he's apparently proud of....

If you got nothing good to say…..


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#166389 - 19/06/2003 17:28 Re: new rifle [Re: blitz]
davec
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Registered: 18/08/2000
Posts: 992
Loc: Georgetown, TX USA
I live in TX also but I have lots of land available to me on which to hunt and shoot

Do you own the land or is it leased? I don't know of anywhere around Austin to go that's not private or a hunting lease. But then again I haven't had the desire to go shooting more than fishing, so I haven't looked into it too much.
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#166390 - 19/06/2003 18:47 Re: new rifle [Re: Redrum]
acurasquirrel_
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I didnt mean to be an ass I was just giving my experience. I will say it was pretty damn fun to play around with, but guns shouldnt be a play toy.
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#166391 - 19/06/2003 20:13 Re: new rifle [Re: ]
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Well I am a troll, right?


LOL, perfect answer! Actually, I disagree. Former troll perhaps, but for many moons now I've seen differently. HOWEVER, there's some other people, who ramble into your post just to say several snotty remarks... that - while otherwise great people - are much more fitting of my definition of the word.

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#166392 - 20/06/2003 17:45 Re: new rifle [Re: tracerbullet]
tanstaafl.
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Uhhhh... yeah. What he said.

tanstaafl.
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#166393 - 24/06/2003 07:04 Re: new rifle [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Updated pic. Stripped the finish off of the bolt carrier to make it look like the original russian AK, which had a chrome bolt carrier.

I shot it this weekend. It was getting 3" groups at 70-100 yards with iron sights from a kneeling position. Not too shabby for an AK...

If you hold the front handguard with your left hand at your hip and hold your right hand trigger finger straight in front of the trigger, then steadily pull forward with your left hand until the trigger hits your finger, the recoil will counteract your constant forward force of your left hand and if you do it just right the gun will shoot full-auto. It is pretty neat. it just goes BA-DA-DA-DA-DA-DA-DA-DAAA in a split second.

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