PANIC!

I've finally gotten my Empeg car! I all worked great... but the first time I dismounted it from my car the player seamed to be locked...On the PC the Empeg booted, went to the radio source and then freezed.
The only cure was re-building the disk and add the tunes.

Back at the car it played great! But again, when i dismounted the player from the car and hung it on the PC it freezed (this time after the boot it seams to go to standby (right bottom light burns).

Does anyone have an idear what the problem can be? The FAQ and BB does not offer a solution.

PLEASE HELP!

Vince

What does the boot log say?

/Michael

please see attachments

Greetings!

Disclaimer: I have never worked on a Mark1 before.

Hmm... The boot log looks okay so far. Is it able to respond to any keyboard command through hyperterminal or from button input? What kind of symptoms are you seeing?

No ctrl+A and the buttons on the empeg does not work...

After booting, I do not get an prompt in hyperterminal

When you rebuilt the unit, did you use the Mark1 developer version and Mark1 version of hijack? Version mismatch is usually the first thing to check.

Yes, I did.

It looks like I have to rebuild it again... After the first rebuild the player worked perfect (again). Untill I 'undocked' the player from the car... then It freezes. Now it just boots but goed to standby after i see the message 'Loading visuals' on the player.

It played very well in the car... perhaps there is something wrong with the wires?

Vince

I am not certain what is wrong with it.

From your description, it played fine in the car, but you cannot get the player to respond when in AC mode. The player appears to boot fine in AC, but after the boot you cannot get to shell or get the buttons / remote to respond.

When you reflash or upgrade the kernel, this should in no way touch the music partitions. When you said you had to reload your music, was your music gone??? If so, that implies something is wrong with the disk or that there are some other problems.

Can you reload the Mark1 developer image, and let me kjnow if that helps? Do not load hijack yet, just the image. This should not change your music or playlists...

Well, it doesn't play in the car anymore. Just one time after coming of the PC to the car-dock. After that dead.

I have put back the consumer 2.0 image. Still the samen problem.

The fist time we have tried about everything. Nothing worked. When we rebuilded the hdd and then put the image back, it worked. It will probable work again, but just one time (after putting it in the car (thats where the rpoblems start (i guess))).

Vince

Greetings!

Please load the developer image. The consumer image will not allow you to drop to a shell prompt to assist in debugging. Thanks.

OK, it's on there.

Still the same problem. The bootlog looks the same. I cant enter empeg (no prompt after Vcb: 0x4028d000

Vince

Now it just boots but goed to standby after i see the message 'Loading visuals' on the player.

You haven't tried altering the visuals files, have you?

Can you connect with Emplode? Also, try removing the config.ini file.

Also check to see if it's this problem.

What version of the software are you using?

Are you using any third party applications (HiJack, etc.)?

Have you recently opened the unit/added new disks, etc.?

For the unit to run though a boot sequence and then start winking the LED seems to me to say that the unit is sleeping. Have you tried a button press to wake it (this is normal behaviour)?

Why on Earth are you rebuilding the disks? Totally uneccessary.

This sounds to me like the player is hanging up due to lack of memory. Are using some application on the player?

OK, have you got the correct terminal settings (115k, 8N1, No Handshaking)?

Or is it just a stuck top button?

Yep, good catch - you should try pressing each button to see that they release and "click" out again. If they don't, then you should undo the fascia screws on the button side by one quarter turn and check them again - repeat until they all click in, and click out again.

Hmm. I never knew the Mark1 had that problem. I always thought it was based on the fascia design of the Mark2 that cause the buttons to bind.

No, it can happen on them both. Not so often reported these days - but Hugo posted about this very early on in the lifetime of the BBS.

It may also be this problem, which is also in the FAQ. However, he has not reported whether or not the drives are spinning, or the case is getting hot.

He also needs to check the harness fuse.

Also, make sure you're trying to DROP to a command prompt. One just won't show up by itself. CTRL-C will kill the player, and actually pull up the prompt. (Hey. I have a 'technical support' job. I look for the obvious..)

Me.

Schofiel,

I'm using the developer image 2. Hijack was on there the second time it happened. The first time it was totally clean.

AFter the second freeze (after the rebuild) I have checked inside to see if there where any components not in their sockets (but all was good). So the original disk is still in there.

The buttons or the remote does not trigger a response.

Vince

No, the buttons still click normal.

Vince

It's not socketed components you have to worry about, read Robs post on regulators shorting themselves out on the chassis.

the disk spinns and the case doesn't get hot at all.

The red connector is not that tight on the case, but i can't (without using abnomal power) tightnen the crews.

Vince

The power issue you refered to: I stilll have the light flickering... And the first time the screen just freezed with the message: Source: Radio

Vince

No I haven't tried to alter the visual files.

I can not connect to the player through HT. (I do get all the boot results, but after Vcb: it freezes) The player is not recognized by emplode...

The disk runs so my guess would not be the ' serial srews' .

Vince

Hmmm.... I'm seriously starting to doubt my abilities

But after "Vcb:" the cursor comes up, i press ctrl+c.... nothing happens...

Vince

Yes, I use these settings... I can read the bootlog... but I can't imput...

Vince

Yeah, but have you installed a new disk or some such recently?

Well... all other thing did not work. So the first time we turned to this last resort... And it worked (the player worked great again).
But the second time this happened we have not rebuild the disk yet...

I have loaded the development image... I do not run any other programms... Or can't Mark1 handle v2?

Vince


Vince