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#177244 - 28/08/2003 16:44 HDCD
robricc carpal tunnel Registered: 30/10/2000 Posts: 4931 Loc: New Jersey, USA	I'm sitting here ripping my CDs and I come across 13 Ways to Bleed on Stage by Cold and it has an HDCD logo on the back. What the hell is this all about? http://www.hdcd.com/ I am not a rocket scientist or kooky audiophile, but this seems like a load of crap to me. _________________________ -Rob Riccardelli 80GB 16MB MK2 090000736
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#177245 - 28/08/2003 17:05 Re: HDCD [Re: robricc]
tanstaafl. carpal tunnel Registered: 08/07/1999 Posts: 5548 Loc: Ajijic, Mexico	this seems like a load of crap to me. Pretty much... tanstaafl. _________________________ "There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch"
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#177246 - 28/08/2003 17:15 Re: HDCD [Re: tanstaafl.]
robricc carpal tunnel Registered: 30/10/2000 Posts: 4931 Loc: New Jersey, USA	You know what the problem with this HDCD thing is? The public would likely never hear the unmolested version to compare. It's like packs of cigarettes have a state tax-stamp on them. Now CDs have a Microsoft tax-stamp on them. Oh yeah, sorry for bringing up a topic that's already been covered _________________________ -Rob Riccardelli 80GB 16MB MK2 090000736
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#177247 - 29/08/2003 05:01 Re: HDCD [Re: robricc]
Dylan addict Registered: 23/09/2000 Posts: 498 Loc: Virginia, USA	HDCD has been around since the mid 90's, I believe. It was developed by a company called Pacific Microsonics. I hadn't realized that MS had bought them. I never paid much attention to it but I believe even the kooky audiophiles declared it to be crap. -Dylan
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#177248 - 29/08/2003 06:41 Re: HDCD [Re: Dylan]
wfaulk carpal tunnel Registered: 25/12/2000 Posts: 16706 Loc: Raleigh, NC US	I've never seen one, but there are supposed to be HDCD-compatible players that can actually access the additional four bits of data on each sample. I could believe that they could have marginally higher fidelity, but their statement that ``HDCD recordings will always sound better than conventional CDs when played on any CD player'' is pure crap. _________________________ Bitt Faulk
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#177249 - 29/08/2003 07:37 Re: HDCD [Re: wfaulk]
Ezekiel pooh-bah Registered: 25/08/2000 Posts: 2413 Loc: NH USA	My Harmon Kardon receiver decodes HDCD signals, and lights a nice HDCD logo when I put one in. I only have one HDCD - Roy Rodgers "Slideways". I can't hear any difference. -Zeke _________________________ WWFSMD?
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#177250 - 29/08/2003 07:43 Re: HDCD [Re: Ezekiel]
tonyc carpal tunnel Registered: 27/06/1999 Posts: 7058 Loc: Pittsburgh, PA	My Harmon Kardon receiver decodes HDCD signals, and lights a nice HDCD logo when I put one in. I only have one HDCD - Roy Rodgers "Slideways". I can't hear any difference. That's the point. The extra 4 bits don't increase audio fidelity in any way. They actually just contain subliminal messages which tell you to purchase more HDCD's and other Microsoft-branded products. _________________________ - Tony C my empeg stuff
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#177251 - 29/08/2003 07:45 Re: HDCD [Re: tonyc]
wfaulk carpal tunnel Registered: 25/12/2000 Posts: 16706 Loc: Raleigh, NC US	buy microsoft bob buy microsoft bob buy microsoft bob buy microsoft bob _________________________ Bitt Faulk
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#177252 - 29/08/2003 07:55 Re: HDCD [Re: tonyc]
tman carpal tunnel Registered: 24/12/2001 Posts: 5528	On a normal audio CD you're getting worse fidelity. It must be dedicating some of the low bits to encoding this crap if it's to remain compatible with standard audio CD players. Keith Johnson is a GRAMMY-nominated recording engineer who also coauthored several patents covering optical disc technology that are the basis of today's video discs and digital audio CDs. Johnson cofounded Gauss Electrophysics where he invented the technology used throughout the industry that allows high-speed, high-quality duplication of prerecorded audio tapes. The RIAA must love his invention!
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#177253 - 29/08/2003 07:56 Re: HDCD [Re: wfaulk]
tman carpal tunnel Registered: 24/12/2001 Posts: 5528	I thought we'd all been saved when they cancelled the Microsoft Bob project. And then I saw Clippy...
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#177254 - 29/08/2003 08:02 Re: HDCD [Re: tman]
wfaulk carpal tunnel Registered: 25/12/2000 Posts: 16706 Loc: Raleigh, NC US	They're probably talking about bulk high-speed duplication of cassettes for manufacture, not home equipment with a ``copy faster'' button. _________________________ Bitt Faulk
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#177255 - 29/08/2003 08:16 Re: HDCD [Re: wfaulk]
tman carpal tunnel Registered: 24/12/2001 Posts: 5528	Yeah I know. Some pro pirates would have it but nearly everybody else wouldn't. It just reminded me about the inflated numbers of CDR writers they quoted once. They increased the number because most of them were above the average speed and therefore should be counted more than once...
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