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#188748 - 09/11/2003 08:42 2 post car lifts
thinfourth2
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Registered: 13/04/2001
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Is there anyone on the board that is UK based that knows some one or somewhere that i can buy a cheap two post car lift.
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#188749 - 09/11/2003 08:56 Re: 2 post car lifts [Re: thinfourth2]
g_attrill
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Registered: 14/04/2002
Posts: 1172
Loc: Hants, UK
Depends on what you want to lift I guess....

£2,000+VAT here:

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/

I have seen ex-MOD garage equipment at:

http://www.witham-sv.com/

...but you might have to wait a while until one comes up.

Gareth

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#188750 - 09/11/2003 09:08 Re: 2 post car lifts [Re: g_attrill]
thinfourth2
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Registered: 13/04/2001
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Another thing but this proabably a patrick call

Anyone now how to turn single phase into 3 phase

I am only wanting to lift a BMW so i can work on it and get another car under it.
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#188751 - 09/11/2003 10:18 Re: 2 post car lifts [Re: thinfourth2]
g_attrill
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You need a phase converter which you could buy (from Machine Mart too), but I expect Patrick knows how to knock one up with parts from a washing maching and some copper pipe!

I imagine getting a three-phase supply installed is quite expensive.

Gareth

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#188752 - 09/11/2003 10:30 Re: 2 post car lifts [Re: thinfourth2]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
1 to 3 phase requires a somewhat expensive device. Prices increase with KW output. Minarik (minarik.com) and KB Electronics (kbelectronics.com) are two that I can think of off hand. For 1 phase input you're probably limited to about 3hp (too lazy for conversion this AM). This KB unit is one to look at.

-Zeke
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#188753 - 09/11/2003 10:32 Re: 2 post car lifts [Re: g_attrill]
pca
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Registered: 20/07/1999
Posts: 1102
Loc: UK
Not quite washing machine parts, but...

You need a 3 phase motor about 30% higher capacity than the maximum load you plan on using, and a number of motor run capacitors. The trick is essentially to use the capacitors to produce two out-of-phase signals from the single phase available, then use all three to run the motor. Then you use the motor windings as a phase regenerator, and connect your load to them. It's what you'd find if you took apart a commercial dynamic phase convertor unit, except in their case they'd be using a motor with no external shaft.

I've got a wiring diagram somewhere, I'll see if I can find it.

I was going to knock one up for my milling machine, but the found that a 2HP single phase motor I had kicking around the workshop was a perfect fit on the mount, and all I had to do was turn up some V-belt pulleys, so I never got around to it.

pca
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#188754 - 09/11/2003 14:15 Re: 2 post car lifts [Re: g_attrill]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
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Loc: Manchester UK
Wow, Witham Specialist looks cool, I wonder if I can afford a landrover!
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#188755 - 09/11/2003 15:04 Re: 2 post car lifts [Re: andym]
thinfourth2
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sod the landrover i'm having one of these

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#188756 - 09/11/2003 18:01 Re: 2 post car lifts [Re: andym]
g_attrill
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Loc: Hants, UK
Best thing is to wait until their tender sales - *all* ex-MOD stuff goes through them now, no direct sales unfortunately.

Have a look at the last sale list and the price results - some stuff est. at £2,500 went for a thousand. Ok the army ones are a little more basic than the civvy models but they have real character and sometimes as many as four coats of paint applied by real soldiers!

I would have liked lot #124: ( pics)

In reply to:


Supa Cat ATMP Mk2 fitted with VW Diesel. 3 speed auto, electric winch. All terrain carrier 833 HOURS ONLY Refurbed by ABRO in 2003 for service in Gulf RARELY AVAILABLE SV223

AH 13 AB
£12500




The local boat scrapyard in Portsmouth had two ex-army tanks for towing the hulks along the sloppy muddy inlet banks - they had "Peace" and "Love" sprayed on them and were frequently parked up so you could see the coming into the city on the M27.

Gareth

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#188757 - 12/11/2003 09:30 Re: 2 post car lifts [Re: thinfourth2]
FlibblE
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Registered: 16/02/2000
Posts: 94
Loc: UK - NE Wales
You could just roll one out of the way:
http://www.liqui-technik.com

Saw this at the classic car show last weekend - stunned me for a minute, not as much as the cadillac limo I was inches away from buying being on show mind!

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#188758 - 12/11/2003 20:03 Re: 2 post car lifts [Re: FlibblE]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Damn that is too funny! I say so because my company Pro-Cut used to be the north american distributor for those things. Damn they were sketchy! It's amazing they're still in business. I think we sold about three of them. We had one at show in Vegas and had a rental car hooked up to one (SEMA show, I think). Well, a representative from the rental company happened to see it and we were banned from renting there _ever_ . Now we take the plates off the rental cars we use in the shows.

That post really made my night. Thank you!

-Zeke
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#188759 - 20/11/2003 13:18 Re: 2 post car lifts [Re: FlibblE]
julf
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Registered: 01/10/2001
Posts: 1307
Loc: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
You were at the Classic Car Show and didn't come and say hello to me?

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#188760 - 20/11/2003 14:12 Re: 2 post car lifts [Re: thinfourth2]
Neutrino
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Registered: 23/01/2002
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Loc: The Great Pacific NorthWest
Have you looked for a used one? I bought one on E-bay for $650.00. I got real lucky as it was only about 100 miles from where I live.
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#188761 - 20/11/2003 14:18 Re: 2 post car lifts [Re: thinfourth2]
Neutrino
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I'm not sure what your looking to do with 3 phase but most lifts are single phase. Besides the rotary type of converter that Patrick described you can pick up add - a - phase converters that just use capacitors, I believe. They are for smaller loads and do not produce true 3 phase but are adequate to run a small 3-phase motor.
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#188762 - 20/11/2003 14:20 Re: 2 post car lifts [Re: Neutrino]
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