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#192471 - 09/12/2003 08:13 Question on fitting car exhausts
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
After failing to get my broken exhaust fixed and I now in the process of fitting a new cat-back exhaust.

The exhaust came with a gasket to go between the pipe and the catalyst. Do I also need to apply some sort of sealant between them ? Also, the exhaust has a join near the back box with a clamp to hold it together, do I also need some sort of sealant there ?
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#192472 - 09/12/2003 08:39 Re: Question on fitting car exhausts [Re: andy]
g_attrill
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Registered: 14/04/2002
Posts: 1172
Loc: Hants, UK
I'm not an expert but I believe you can (should?) use exhaust assembly paste on the gasket and possibly on the clamped pipe too. I think you just apply it liberally like grease and it sets when heated.

By the way, I did look on yell.com on Sunday to see if they had anyone that could help but it didn't really shed any light :-( Did you drive it back anyway?

Gareth

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#192473 - 09/12/2003 09:32 Re: Question on fitting car exhausts [Re: g_attrill]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
Thanks. I might not been needing the assembly paste after all. It looks like the 1997/1998 Mk1 MX5/Miata might have a longer cat than other years. Meaning that my nice new exhaust won't fit without being cut down, which makes it a job for someone else...

I didn't drive it back, I had the AA recover me back home. If I had driven another 160 miles my bumper would have been a puddle of black plastic...
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#192474 - 09/12/2003 09:52 Re: Question on fitting car exhausts [Re: andy]
furtive
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Registered: 14/08/2001
Posts: 886
Loc: London, UK
Ditch the cat and find a friendly MOT place.
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#192475 - 09/12/2003 10:08 Re: Question on fitting car exhausts [Re: furtive]
andy
carpal tunnel

Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
It would appear that ditching the cat wouldn't help me any. If I have a long cat apparently I also have a shorter than normal down pipe, meaning that the standard cat replacement pipe wouldn't fit either.

If do have a long cat then I think I'll have to get the exhaust chopped and the flange welded back on. I don't know what the implications are when I need a new cat though as I don't know if Mazda actually sell the long cat as a spare. The various MX5 parts sites definitely don't sell two different cats.

I know there are other reasons for wanting to ditch the cat, but I'm not that desparate for another 3hp...
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#192476 - 09/12/2003 15:25 Re: Question on fitting car exhausts [Re: andy]
lastdan
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Registered: 31/05/2002
Posts: 352
Loc: santa cruz,ca
you wont need to treat the exhaust gaskets, they go on dry.
the goop for the pipe to pipe slip fit is not a bad idea, but not a must either.

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#192477 - 09/12/2003 16:50 Re: Question on fitting car exhausts [Re: lastdan]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
What, not even when the gasket is metal, between two metal components ?
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#192478 - 09/12/2003 16:52 Re: Question on fitting car exhausts [Re: andy]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
nah, just wedge it in there and bolt em together

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#192479 - 09/12/2003 17:31 Re: Question on fitting car exhausts [Re: RobotCaleb]
lastdan
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Registered: 31/05/2002
Posts: 352
Loc: santa cruz,ca
BTW...
use new copper exhaust nuts (self locking type) on any studs / bolts.
not the 'nylock' ones.......they melt (:

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#192480 - 09/12/2003 17:51 Re: Question on fitting car exhausts [Re: RobotCaleb]
tracerbullet
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Registered: 08/01/2002
Posts: 419
Loc: Minnesota
Just another agreement, we assemble about 25 engines each day here at the Diesel shop, and it's all a thin metal gasket between to cast iron pieces (head and manifold).

Get some paste if you want it, but you're almost certainly not going to need it (assuming the gasket itself is new).

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#192481 - 10/12/2003 03:27 Re: Question on fitting car exhausts [Re: tracerbullet]
furtive
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Registered: 14/08/2001
Posts: 886
Loc: London, UK
Oh, and use some copper grease on the nuts so that you can get them undone again in the future if you need to
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#192482 - 10/12/2003 06:09 Re: Question on fitting car exhausts [Re: tracerbullet]
g_attrill
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Registered: 14/04/2002
Posts: 1172
Loc: Hants, UK
Ah, my Edelbrock system has some fibrous "doughnuts" which my mechanic spread paste over when he put it back on (after welding half the darn floor up!)

Gareth

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#192483 - 10/12/2003 07:56 Re: Question on fitting car exhausts [Re: RobotCaleb]
lopan
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Registered: 28/01/2002
Posts: 970
Loc: Manassas VA
nah, just wedge it in there and bolt em together

I agree, I recently put an aftermarket exhaust on my car, just slap the gasket in there and torque to the correct amount, you should be fine.
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