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#193388 - 14/12/2003 01:05 EmpegFace 1.7 Available
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Unless there are any show-stopping bugs, this will probably be the last release for a while. I initially thought I was just going to quickly add Winsock to the current version and leave it alone, but I kept finding stuff to fix and fiddle with, and then there were more new bugs to fix, and well I just ended up doing more to it than I'd intended to do. So it gets a rest for a while after this.

Anyway, the readme file included with this version says Monday the 15th, but I'm releasing it two days earlier than I expected since I got the work done on it this weekend. You can download it from the Downloads section of www.riocar.org or from my home page.

Release Notes:

- True multiple monitor support. Snaps to edge of all screens when multiple monitors are used.

- Snap to screen edge now honors the taskbar if the taskbar has been set to "Always on Top" mode. It no longer snaps to the edge of the *screen* per se, it snaps to the edge of the *work area*, which is defined as the part of the screen that would be taken up by a maximized window. This means that the taskbar *must* be set to Always on Top mode if you want to snap to it. Note that other programs such as WinAmp and Trillian have the exact same behavior, probably for the same reason.

- Program now has a different mode for offscreen rescues. If the center point of the face or the remote is off screen, then it centers the window on the primary display the next time that window gets the focus.

- Side effect of multiple monitor support: Windows 95 and Windows NT 4 are no longer supported for snaps. Those operating systems do not have the capability for multiple monitors. The functions I'm calling to support multiple monitors don't exist on Windows 95 or Windows NT 4. You might get a snap to the left/top edge of the screen but that's about it.

- Removed the "Dual Monitor Support" checkbox. No longer needed with the new mode for offscreen rescues and the program's new awareness of multiple monitors.

- Forms no longer blink on screen when starting minimized.

- Fixed newly-induced bug where the skin for the remote would not get loaded at startup.
Enjoy!
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#193389 - 14/12/2003 16:39 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: tfabris]
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#193390 - 15/12/2003 12:06 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: Skunk]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
I take it that, since I've seen no complaints in this thread, it means the program is either performing flawlessly or that people got so sick of the frequent releases that they stopped grabbing new versions.
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#193391 - 15/12/2003 12:10 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: tfabris]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
yep

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#193392 - 15/12/2003 12:27 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: RobotCaleb]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
Works great for me!
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#193393 - 15/12/2003 12:30 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: RobotCaleb]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
"Yep" to what? Getting sick of the releases, or that the program is working well?
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#193394 - 15/12/2003 12:42 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: tfabris]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
well, just yep
pretty much to make you paranoid

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#193395 - 15/12/2003 12:53 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: RobotCaleb]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Heh, thanks.

Well, the meatball man likes it, so I guess we're cool.
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#193396 - 15/12/2003 13:27 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: tfabris]
Skunk
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Registered: 26/08/2003
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Hats off to the FAQ's man!

Edit: "FAQ Master".............shame on me.


Edited by skunknumber1 (15/12/2003 13:28)
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#193397 - 15/12/2003 13:36 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: Skunk]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Thanks, glad you like it, and glad it's working for you.
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#193398 - 15/12/2003 15:41 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: tfabris]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Tony,
I tried 1.7 today (with no empeg attached) and the windows did not snap to the sides, save for the top and left edge of my primary (left) monitor. I'm running Windowblinds/Objectbar as my task bar, so I don't expect anything to snap to that. I'll try with an empeg connection another day. I figure it'll work as it has for others. Not a biggie as far as I'm concerned, but I thought I'd report it.

-Zeke
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#193399 - 15/12/2003 15:49 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: Ezekiel]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
windows did not snap to the sides, save for the top and left edge of my primary (left) monitor
This is a symptom that the Windows API functions MonitorFromPoint and/or GetMonitorInfo are failing. This would definitely happen if you were running Windows 95 or Windows NT 4, as described here in the release notes:

- Side effect of multiple monitor support: Windows 95 and Windows NT 4 are no longer supported for snaps. Those operating systems do not have the capability for multiple monitors. The functions I'm calling to support multiple monitors don't exist on Windows 95 or Windows NT 4. You might get a snap to the left/top edge of the screen but that's about it.
If you are running 98, 2000, or XP, and it still happens with Windowblinds/Objectbar disabled and the system rebooted (in that order), then let me know.
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#193400 - 15/12/2003 15:52 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: tfabris]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
If you are running 98, 2000, or XP, and it still happens with Windowblinds/Objectbar disabled and the system rebooted (in that order), then let me know.

Will check that (it's W2k Pro SP2) when I have a moment.

-Zeke
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#193401 - 15/12/2003 16:10 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: Ezekiel]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
It also sounded like you're running multiple monitors. Is that feature added by some special third-party software trick, or is it with the normal Windows 2000 support for multiple monitors?

In other words, when you get the display properties, do you see two monitors, labeled 1 and 2, in the regular Windows display properties screen? Or do you need to run a third-party utility to adjust your dual monitor settings?
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#193402 - 15/12/2003 16:25 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: tfabris]
Ezekiel
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Yeah, I run Matrox G400 Max with two monitors via Windows standard controls.
Monitor 1: 1600x1200 24 bit, Studioworks 995E 19"
Monitor 2: 1152x864 16 bit, ViewSonic EF70 17"

They're staggered vertically, FWIW.

I've turned of Object Bar, no change. I haven't rebooted yet (although I did this AM).

-Zeke
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#193403 - 15/12/2003 16:55 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: Ezekiel]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Do other products, such as Trillian or WinAmp, correctly snap to the edges of the screen and the taskbar on your system?
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#193404 - 15/12/2003 17:05 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: tfabris]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Winamp 2.9 does the Right Thing on all 8 edges.

-Z
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#193405 - 15/12/2003 17:21 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: Ezekiel]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Makes no sense at all.

Lemme know what this does on your system. And also let me know if things work after a reboot.


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192658-Test.zip (13 downloads)

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#193406 - 15/12/2003 18:55 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: tfabris]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Never mind, Ezekiel. I know why it's not working on your system. 1.8 up in a little while.

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#193407 - 15/12/2003 19:11 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: tfabris]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
All right, 1.8 is up. Wash, rinse, repeat. *SIGH*...
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#193408 - 15/12/2003 19:19 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: tfabris]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Sorry man. Hated to do it to you. I'll take a looksee at 1.8 tomorrow. I'm in 1-screen land now.

-Zeke
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#193409 - 15/12/2003 19:23 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: Ezekiel]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Hey, it's cool. I'm the one who messed up the code, not you.
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#193410 - 16/12/2003 08:17 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: tfabris]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Kaching! 1.8 snaps to all 8 edges including the ObjectBar task bar (and the regular one as well). Killer. Thanks.

-Zeke
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#193411 - 16/12/2003 11:32 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: tfabris]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
I was just waiting for the Pull Down Skin Menus!

Seriously though, you've done a great job on this and I use it every day. Thank you!
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#193412 - 16/12/2003 11:34 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Hey, cool, glad you like it. And I'm glad it's working for you now, Ezekiel.

Yeah, I need to get pull down skin menus in there, but that'll have to wait until some other day.
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#193413 - 16/12/2003 11:54 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: tfabris]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
Isn't it funny how the features like snapping that take a bunch of tricky coding somehow make it in, but a combo box that would take 15 min. to add gets shoved on the back burner.

That happens a lot in the stuff I write too. The reason why it usually takes so long to get that stuff in? It hasn't annoyed me enough to overcome my complacency

So, if those of you who are adept at skinning will quickly produce a few hundred skins, I'm sure he'd get annoyed with looking through his folder structure to find the right one pretty soon.
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#193414 - 16/12/2003 12:05 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: JBjorgen]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
The difference between the snapping and the combo box is:

When I started the snapping project, I didn't think it would take any tricky coding. I thought it would be very quick. The combo box is not as simple as it sounds because I need to go into each folder and enumerate the files within to verify that there's a valid skin in the folder before I display it in the combobox list. I know that the combobox will take a reasonable chunk of time to code so that it works right. I didn't know that the snapping thing would be such a pain.

Also, the snapping thing provided a learning experience for me, I'd never done it before and wanted to see how it's done.
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#193415 - 16/12/2003 13:49 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: tfabris]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
So am I never going to get my wish of having a taskbar/switchbar entry for EmpegFace?
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#193416 - 16/12/2003 14:38 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: tfabris]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
I whipped this code up for the combo box in just a couple minutes...am I being naive or would this work?


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192766-skins.txt (123 downloads)

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#193417 - 16/12/2003 15:18 Re: EmpegFace 1.7 Available [Re: tonyc]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
So am I never going to get my wish of having a taskbar/switchbar entry for EmpegFace?
Not never, just not today.
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