Mmm.. yes, the serial notify appears to be leaking through Hijack again in v3alpha7 -- I'll tweak something and see if it goes back to normal again..

Yup, that worked. The strange behaviour from earlier v3alpha(s) has gone away, so I'll hack Hijack to do the right thing with v3alpha7.

Look for Hijack v374 shortly.

-ml

I know this probably sounds silly, but everyone else knows that alpha 7 is downloadable from www.empeg.com/v3alpha ?

EDIT: Read the next thread Andy! <slap>

My other argument is that there's no need to add superfluous suffixes.

Irregardless of this, you must admit his usage of the word was not in fact grammatically incorrect.

Irregardless of this, you must admit his usage of the word was not in fact grammatically incorrect.

Okay, now that's just torture.

Other than my argument that orientate isn't a viable word, then yeah.

Okay, now that's just torture.

Too true. LOL.

Not for the route file you sent. At least not with the attached binary, which I don't think changed.

Any plans for a Beta 3.0 for Valentine's Day?

Give the man a cigar!

-Zeke

Not for the route file you sent. At least not with the attached binary, which I don't think changed.

That attached binary works for me. Dunno how it was different from the others I tried.

Ah well, I'm happy now anyway. So... That attached binary has both (a) 3.0 font support and (b) the routepoint double-up workaround?

Thanks for all your help!

I take that back. It seems to lock up during the route load of random routes. Some routes it locks during load, some it doesn't. I'm not sure, but I think that the longer the route, the more likely it is to lock.

I must not have made clean before posting the last one, or something. I made no source changes to this binary.

Ok. So what you're saying is it's non-deterministic to you. Yay.

Okay, I think it's a memory problem. I haven't done a huge amount of testing, but so far the evidence points to these behaviors:

- If I load a very long route, it is more likely to lock than if I load a very short one.

- If I load a route, and then, in the same session, load a different route, it is highly likely to lock, especially if the routes in question are long ones. It's almost as if it doesn't free up the memory for the first route upon loading the second one.

The older gpsapp 0.17 will lock too, but it is much less likely to do so, and usually will do it only with the second behavior. The new one will lock up much more easily with the first behavior, and almost invariably with the second behavior.

I've been experimenting with different amounts of reservecache because I am trying to get GPSapp and Emphatic to play nice together. The problem is that I've got a Mark2 original so I don't have extra RAM. And... Alpha3 won't build databases with large reservecache settings. Also, I had a problem where, even if the reservecahce was @DC, Alpha3 couldn't even LOAD the database when in DC mode and would go into an infinte reboot loop as it kept trying to build the databases and failing because it was out of memory.

So if these route loading failures in GPSapp are due to low reservecache settings, then I'm doomed to stick with 2.0 unless some memory-conserving miracles happen...

It may be 2 different locks. The second lock seems like it might be memory, the first like my dup suppression loop might not work. The dup suppression code shouldn't have any effect on freeing.

You could trade me your Mk2 for an Mk2a

Turn on swap, Tony.

;@EXEC_ONCE swapon -a

-ml

I can do this for in-car mode?

Sure. It will probably spin up maybe once or twice again after program startup, but I'd expect it to stabilize rather quickly and spin down the drive (hijack -- 30 second timeout, which you may want to reduce).

Cheers

So if memory is so scarce, how come it isn't enabled by default?

Hey, I didn't design the unit!

Just do it.

Cheers

Hahahahahaha!

It's not leaking memory, and the added code does the following things:
1) be able to read in v2 fonts (from v3 software)
2) add a case to not print "RIGHT" if you mean straight ("LEFT" was already checked)
3) deduplicate route points. all it does is decrement the loop counter used to fill in the array, and decrement the total points counter to reflect that we removed a point.

Nothing that should be hanging.

Thanks for that info, Derrick. I'll mess with it and see if I can come up with a solution that lets me run the new version along with emphatic and with Alpha 7. I'll try turning on swap and see if that works (anyone else see any reason I shouldn't do that?).

Thanks for all your help with this!

<dredging up kind of an old thread>
Is there a current tar or whatever of the gpsapp source available somewhere that will compile and work with v3a7? I see some of your patches scattered around, but I am not sure what is where at this point.

Thanks,
-Mike
</dredging>

Um. Nag me daily until I do something about it. Probably tomorrow.

Nag me daily until I do something about it.

Anything new on the alpha front?

Is thinfourth2 away on a ship yet?

haven't been here for a while and now found the v3alpha7 :-)
of course i installed it and now i have 2 questions:

1) my player now always rebuilds the database when starting the player. i uploaded the version with emplode 2.10, already tried to sync with emplode but still get the message after reboot. what can i do to avoid this.

2) i coulnd't find the release notes for the first v3alpha version. as i can remember there was a description about the new functions in it. where could i get these descriptions?

cheers

1. Load the latest version of JEmplode and synch (which will rebuild your database correctly.)

2. Crossfading and the ability to load Ogg and Flac files are the biggest features you gain in going to the alpha. Alpha 7 notes here.

ok, i already made it to have a correct database - i found <A HREF="http://www.riocar.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=FAQ&file=index&myfaq=yes&id_cat=8&faqent=220#220" >this FAQ entry</a> and it worked fine.

I did find the release notes for alpha5 and alpha7 but not for earlier alpha releases. as far as i can remember there were a few things said about the new features (stereo separation, auto gain control, pitchbend, ..)
this is what i'm looking for.. can someone tell me more about the settings of those features?
thanks in advance