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#200645 - 27/01/2004 11:35 My Empeg is not being found by jEmplode
mcsimuss
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Registered: 05/01/2003
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i've installed the latest release of Jemplode for Mac and it doesn't find my empeg player when I connect it to the computer via USB. And I couldn't find an answer to it in FAQs.
Anyone had the same problem? What should I do?

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#200646 - 27/01/2004 11:49 Re: My Empeg is not being found by jEmplode [Re: mcsimuss]
tfabris
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Jemplode requires ethernet.
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#200647 - 27/01/2004 13:35 Re: My Empeg is not being found by jEmplode [Re: tfabris]
mcsimuss
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I have ethernet. so all i need is a cable and to connect it to my computer and then jemplode will find the empeg player??

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#200648 - 27/01/2004 13:51 Re: My Empeg is not being found by jEmplode [Re: mcsimuss]
tfabris
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Potentially, yes. Please click here for more information.
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#200649 - 27/01/2004 14:43 Re: My Empeg is not being found by jEmplode [Re: mcsimuss]
mlord
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I usually find I must hardcode the player's IP address onto the "options" for JEmplode. The broadcast method rarely works for me.. dunno why.

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#200650 - 27/01/2004 14:50 Re: My Empeg is not being found by jEmplode [Re: mlord]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Maybe because your household LAN has 20 devices and 8 routers/switches.
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#200651 - 27/01/2004 14:59 Re: My Empeg is not being found by jEmplode [Re: mlord]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Are you using a netmask other than 255.255.255.0? If so, Java's mediocre IP implementation doesn't provide a method of retrieving actual netmasks and jEmplode just hopes that it's 255.255.255.0, IIRC.
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#200652 - 27/01/2004 16:13 Re: My Empeg is not being found by jEmplode [Re: wfaulk]
mlord
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Actually, I just (very!) recently changed the netmask to 255.255.0.0 from the original value of 255.0.0.0, and Jemplode seems to be finding the machines now.

BUG: When using both "specific address" and "broadcast" (both checked), it lists the same player twice (the "specific" one).

Cheers

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#200653 - 27/01/2004 16:21 Re: My Empeg is not being found by jEmplode [Re: wfaulk]
Daria
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Are you using a netmask other than 255.255.255.0? If so, Java's mediocre IP implementation doesn't provide a method of retrieving actual netmasks and jEmplode just hopes that it's 255.255.255.0, IIRC.


I guess they needed to support things other than just platforms with BSD sockets... but even then, I suppose there are different variants of those ioctls, and some require superpowers on some platforms.

Bleah.

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#200654 - 27/01/2004 17:49 Re: My Empeg is not being found by jEmplode [Re: Daria]
wfaulk
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I guess they needed to support things other than just platforms with BSD sockets
I realize that you're saying this with the second part of your post, but isn't Java supposed to hide platform differences? And, in those cases where the netmask is unobtainable, just have it throw a specific exception. Not too difficult.
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#200655 - 27/01/2004 18:00 Re: My Empeg is not being found by jEmplode [Re: wfaulk]
Daria
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I realize that you're saying this with the second part of your post, but isn't Java supposed to hide platform differences? And, in those cases where the netmask is unobtainable, just have it throw a specific exception. Not too difficult.


It is hiding them, it's always lying to you

Yeah, that's sort of unfortunate that they're going about hiding them the wrong way.

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#200656 - 27/01/2004 19:16 Re: My Empeg is not being found by jEmplode [Re: mlord]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
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Loc: Richmond, VA
I try 255.255.255.255,255.255.255.0,255.255.0.0,etc ... until i find one or run out of 255's

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