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#222917 - 24/03/2003 09:26 Steaming Radio
bobm
stranger

Registered: 28/01/2002
Posts: 5
Has anyone figured out how to stream a radio broadcast to the Rio?

thx

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#222918 - 24/03/2003 10:46 Re: Steaming Radio [Re: bobm]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
Has anyone figured out how to stream a radio broadcast to the Rio?

If you mean "streaming internet radio" yes, I think some of the third-party server products have incorporated this feature. Links to these products are in the FAQ section of this BBS.
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#222919 - 24/03/2003 14:08 Re: Steaming Radio [Re: bobm]
happy_hammer66
newbie

Registered: 09/04/2002
Posts: 45
I also stream my local FM radio to the Rio's by having a tuner connected to the PC soundcard and shoutcast/winamp set-up on the PC.

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#222920 - 25/03/2003 08:21 Re: Steaming Radio [Re: bobm]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
    Steaming Radio
That pretty well describes the radio around here, too.
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#222921 - 16/09/2003 04:00 Re: Steaming Radio [Re: bobm]
Tone
newbie

Registered: 27/07/2003
Posts: 25
Has anyone been able to play specific radio broadcasts on BBC Radio4 on a Rio? The broadcasts are presented in a .ram (?Real Audio) format on the bbc.co.uk website. Any suggestions how to achieve this?
Tone

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#222922 - 16/09/2003 10:31 Re: Steaming Radio [Re: Tone]
andy
carpal tunnel

Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
With difficulty, none of the Receiver clients can currently decode RealAudio streams.

Real have open sourced some of their code, but it looks like the bits you need to decode the RealAudio streams are still only available in binary form. I can't work out from their site whether ARM binaries are available or not.

Adding Real support to any of the clients would be quite a bit of work.
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#222923 - 17/09/2003 00:32 Re: Steaming Radio [Re: Tone]
happy_hammer66
newbie

Registered: 09/04/2002
Posts: 45
i think there was a real audio plugin for winamp called 'tara' (i have a copy of it), if this could be used with shoutcast you could effectively transcode real to mp3. Only summising though.

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#222924 - 17/09/2003 02:16 Re: Steaming Radio [Re: happy_hammer66]
Tone
newbie

Registered: 27/07/2003
Posts: 25
Any idea where to find more info re. this?
Tone

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#222925 - 17/09/2003 19:50 Re: Steaming Radio [Re: Tone]
basf_audio
newbie

Registered: 02/09/2002
Posts: 36
Loc: Saint Louis
I did a quick look around the web... You can find it here...

http://classic.winamp.com/plugins/detail.jhtml?componentId=22143

Haven't tried it yet though...

_dave

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#222926 - 18/09/2003 02:21 Re: Steaming Radio [Re: basf_audio]
Tone
newbie

Registered: 27/07/2003
Posts: 25
OK, Tara seems to work with Winamp (but not v3 as yet) on the BBC Radio individual broadcasts (.ram formats). Not as far as I can see on the live broadcasts. I assume it'll therefore work through shoutcast to produce a stream for the Rios. Choosing/selecting broadcasts might be a convoluted process but at least the audio will come through I think.
Tone

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#222927 - 09/10/2003 13:58 Re: Steaming Radio [Re: Tone]
iceweazel
journeyman

Registered: 26/11/2001
Posts: 91
Loc: the states
Actually I had BBC working for a while on a linux box at my home. Here's an old thread that suggested a way to do it (which is what I ended up doing)

http://rioreceiver.comms.net/php/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=Technical&Number=2649&page=&view=&sb=&o=

However I gave that box away so the script and code are now floating around Cray corporate. I'll see if I can find out if its still around. Doubtful. But it only took a couple hours to code up a quick .ram-->shoutcast streaming gateway for a stream to the receiver. No clue where I got the doco on the .ram format anymore though, sorry. :-/

edit: remember to post thread link next time. sigh.


Edited by iceweazel (09/10/2003 13:58)
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#222928 - 10/10/2003 02:26 Re: Steaming Radio [Re: iceweazel]
Tone
newbie

Registered: 27/07/2003
Posts: 25
Well, if you do come across it, let us know.
Thanks
Tone

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#222929 - 10/10/2003 07:32 Re: Steaming Radio [Re: Tone]
happy_hammer66
newbie

Registered: 09/04/2002
Posts: 45
can't you tune into the bbcas you do normally,take the speaker output and put it into the line-in of a soundcard and let winamp/shoutcast use this as its input to stream to the rio's?

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#222930 - 14/10/2003 12:21 Re: Steaming Radio [Re: Tone]
iceweazel
journeyman

Registered: 26/11/2001
Posts: 91
Loc: the states
Sorry that machine was wiped. I don't recall where I got the code stubs for it, save that they came from someone AT real, after I cried about how annoying their new "free" nonsense was and how one still had to use a binary from them.

I don't recall it being very difficult, I'd like to hack something directly into the receivers decoding kernel, but time isnt on my side anymore.
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#222931 - 02/11/2003 14:25 Re: Steaming Radio [Re: happy_hammer66]
krossell
stranger

Registered: 02/11/2003
Posts: 8
Happy_Hammer66:
Do you have a radio card in your pc, or a regular tuner plugged into line in? I have a radio card and downloaded radiator (http://flesko.cz/radiator.htm), and now I'm trying to figure out the best way to change the station from the Rio.

Kevin

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#222932 - 22/12/2003 08:13 Radiator [Re: krossell]
Saki
stranger

Registered: 15/07/2003
Posts: 19
Loc: London
You can do streaming with radiator? That would be awesome! I've been looking to get a Freeview card for a little while -- most likely the Nebular Electronics one until I saw your post: It looks like Nebular isn't supported by Radiator; I guess I'll be stuck with the Hauppauge. Was Radiator easy to set up? And did you have any luck figuring out if you could change station using tRio?

Cheers,

Dave

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#222933 - 23/12/2003 17:08 Re: Radiator [Re: Saki]
krossell
stranger

Registered: 02/11/2003
Posts: 8
I haven't put any effort into it lately, I've been trying to get my myHTPC box set up. I set up winamp/shoutcast and was able to stream one station, but my question was more about how to change the station. Shoutcast was easy to setup, I just selected 'line in' for the source and added the address to trio. (I use windows 2000, jreceiver & trio)

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#222934 - 11/01/2004 21:07 Re: Radiator [Re: Saki]
krossell
stranger

Registered: 02/11/2003
Posts: 8
If anyone's interested, I got my Rio to play and change radio stations from the radio card in my server. I'm using trio, jreceiver, and win2k server. I used this version of shoutcast:
http://www.public.asu.edu/~abarber2/wa/dnas171.exe
because it has less or no buffer.
I'm using Radiator which has a command line program to change the stations.
I have this page on the server:
<%@ Language = VBScript %>
<% Option Explicit %>
<%
'Because we might be redirecting, we must use buffering.
Response.Buffer = True
%>
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>Radio</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
<%
dim command
dim WShShell
dim retCode
dim freq
freq = request("freq")
command = "CMD /c c:\rad\rc.exe fr" & freq
set WShShell = Server.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
retCode = WShShell.Run(command)
Set WShShell = nothing
Response.Redirect("http://server:8000/listen.pls")

'Flush Response Buffer.
Response.Flush
%>
</BODY>
</HTML>

and some links in trio like this:
http://server/radio.asp?freq=10190
to change the station to 101.9.

Of course there's no error checking, and it's not secure, and a user must be logged on to the server, but it works for me.

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