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#230762 - 17/08/2004 01:50 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: wfaulk]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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If you have a cable system that doesn't require a box or if for some reason you can actually receive a decent number of channels at good quality over the air, then you can certainly view something other than what the DVR is viewing, but in my experience, such setups have always been uncommon and are only getting rarer.


We watch exactly one channel with any regularity which requires digital: the one Daria is on

My TiVo is set up to record from cable, and has a second input configured to feed only the digital range, via the cable box, on the SVideo port. Yucky, but it means I can use the digital cable receiver for other things if the TiVo isn't.

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#230763 - 17/08/2004 01:59 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: Daria]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
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We watch exactly one channel with any regularity which requires digital: the one Daria is on

Noggin!

*embarrassed*
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#230764 - 17/08/2004 04:04 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: gbeer]
drakino
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Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
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I don't think Replay has any kind of Wish List function either. Wish lists let you select a particular actor, keyword, title word... and it will automatically record anything that is a match. For instance instead of a regular season pass, which is channel and show based, I use a wishlist for the title "STARGATE SG-1". This picks up Stargate no matter what channel it is on. It works well for those shows that are being used to fill in odd programming gaps.


It does. You go to Search, put in the text, set what to search (title, actor, etc...) then use the "Create theme channel" option.

The only feature that I know Tivo has over the ReplayTV is the rate a show thing to have it record similar shows. The ReplayTV does have an extensive Replay Guide selection though, where you can tell it you like classic SciFi and it will record such shows.

ReplayTV on the other hand has several features over the Tivo.

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#230765 - 17/08/2004 04:44 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: Dignan]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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We watch exactly one channel with any regularity which requires digital: the one Daria is on

Noggin!

*embarrassed*


Ha, I'm not.
I'd be watching "My So-Called Life" there, but hooray for DVDs.

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#230766 - 17/08/2004 12:57 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: Daria]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
lol, that's exactly what I've been watching on that channel

*embarrassed again*
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#230767 - 17/08/2004 13:45 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: Dignan]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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lol, that's exactly what I've been watching on that channel

*embarrassed again*


And he comes out every Friday night... Like Urkel!

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#230768 - 17/08/2004 15:21 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: gbeer]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I use a wishlist for the title "STARGATE SG-1".

Incidentally, a tip for the Tivo people... When setting a wishlist by keyword, if the keyword is more than one word, it'll do a fuzzy search.

For instance, I had a wishlist for JAMES BOND and of course it started grabbing everything with JAMES in the title+description, and also everything with BOND in the title+description. Not what I wanted, of course.

The secret is to put "JAMES BOND" in quotes for an exact match, which works.

Except there's no quote symbol on the character chart...

The big secret is that the PAUSE key on the remote control works as the quote key in the character-entry screen. See, 'cause the pause symbol is two vertical bars which kind of look like a quote symbol, too.

Clearly the Tivo interface designers are smartasses.
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#230769 - 17/08/2004 17:41 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: tfabris]
matthew_k
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Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
Oh how I long for the day of advanced searching in theme channels. If tivo had a logical "not" for their theme channels, I suspect I'd buy one. There are plenty of shows where I've seen all the episodes, but would still like to see anything else with the actors, but there's no way to put Alyson Hannigan in any not get the four hours of day of Buffy that FX shows.

Matthew

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#230770 - 24/08/2004 18:10 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: matthew_k]
SonicSnoop
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Registered: 29/06/2002
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Loc: Triangle, VA
Welp I just went out last night and got a 40gig Tivo, set it up and configured it with a wireless usb nic. I originally grabbed a 802.11g one cause that was all they had and they said it was backwards compatible with 802.11b which is what i run at the house. but it turned out it wasnt compatible with my tivo, so luckly my roommate had a 802.11b usb wireless nic, so he got an upgraded one tivo got a handme down Now when I get home I will see if I cant get it to record things. I played with the pause and slow mo features. pretty cool. I had to use the IR blaster for the regular cable box, but it was easy to setup. The pause in flipping channels is somewhat annoying but dealable. I dont know if its just me but for some reason the picture looks slightly fuzzy. not a whole lot but just a hair during normal live tv. anyone else have this? Id like to slap a 250gig HD in this baby soon
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#230771 - 24/08/2004 18:36 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: SonicSnoop]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
If you have a standalone TiVo, any video you watch from it will definitively be worse than the source, since it's using MPEG (2, I believe) video codecs to compress it lossfully. In most cases, it's not much worse, but it is noticeable when you first switch over. Once you use it for a while, you probably won't notice it any more except the rare occasions when it gets bad. Rippling water and video static are two such instances that it has a hard time dealing with. "Any video" includes even "live" TV when you watch it via the TiVo. In order to give you the slomo, pause, etc., it actually records live TV and replays it a few seconds later. If it annoys you for whatever reason, you can also bypass the TiVo and plug your initial source directly into the TV as well as into the TiVo. Then you can switch TV inputs to see real live TV, sans video compression.

It's important to point out that you should only run your live TV source(s) through the TiVo and make sure other things like DVD players don't run their video through it. It'll compress the video making it worse without providing you any benefit (not to mention that pressing play, pause, etc. will all be delayed by the few second TiVo live TV buffer), and that's provided that the TiVo won't do weird things with Macrovision, which it may.
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#230772 - 24/08/2004 19:08 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: wfaulk]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
I remember when Stephen "Blue" Heaslip posted about a problem where his Playstation's control inputs seemed to lag by half a second or so. The next day he posted that he'd figured out that the problem was that he'd routed the playstation video through his Tivo...
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#230773 - 25/08/2004 00:33 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: wfaulk]
SonicSnoop
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The only thing I have pluged into the tivo is the cable box and the vcr we used to connect the cable to the tv. never even use the vcr so im not to worried about it. the dvd is plugged right into the tv. recorded my first movie today it was cool. now just need to sit down with the book and figure out what all I can do. set it up to record football that should be fun to watch with slow mo. I am starting to get used to the slightly lower quality. If I went with comcasts digital cable would it be any better? thanks
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#230774 - 25/08/2004 13:15 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: matthew_k]
DWallach
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Registered: 30/04/2000
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If tivo had a logical "not" for their theme channels, I suspect I'd buy one.


That's my single greatest wishlist item. I'd love to record "Jazz and not smooth".

*sigh*

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#230775 - 27/08/2004 11:33 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: SonicSnoop]
morrisdl
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Registered: 21/08/2000
Posts: 346
Loc: Rochester, NY USA
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...set it up to record football that should be fun to watch with slow mo....


(assuming you are speaking of American football) Actually, that’s one of my favorite DVR recorded shows - but watching it in light speed. You can watch a 3 hour football game in 1 hour. Besides the commercial skip, the 30 sec skip works perfectly between plays
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#230776 - 27/08/2004 16:10 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: morrisdl]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
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You can watch a 3 hour football game in 1 hour. Besides the commercial skip, the 30 sec skip works perfectly between plays


Given how my team (the Redskins) was doing at the end of last season, in addition to what you do, towards the end of some games I was also fast forwarding through plays
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#230777 - 27/08/2004 21:46 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: morrisdl]
SonicSnoop
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Where is the 30 sec skip? I have a fast forward rewind, instant reply and an advance button that catches all the way up with current live tv but no 30sec skip I know of. I have the SA S2 Model TCD540040 if that helps any. Also could someone give me a run thru how to setup how to get my tivo to record all redskins games? I found it in the guide and went to set up a season pass but it was saying it would record ALL football games and I dont want that. Thanks!
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#230778 - 27/08/2004 21:52 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: SonicSnoop]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
On the tivos, 30-second-skip is a hidden feature that must be activated with a secret combination of keystrokes. On my tivo, the keystrokes are:

- Play something from your Now Playing menu so that you're in playback mode.
- SELECT
- PLAY
- SELECT
- THREE (3)
- ZERO (0)
- SELECT

If you've got sounds turned on, you should hear "bong bong bong" if you did it correctly.

Now, the two little curly-que buttons, the ones that normally skip to the end or the beginning of a program, go forward 30 seconds and back five seconds, respectively.

Please note: This setting is stored in volatile RAM, so if you lose power to the tivo, you'll need to do the S-P-S-3-0-S keystroke sequence to re-enable it. Before I had it memorized, I had that keystroke sequence written down on a sticker inside the battery hatch on my remote.
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#230779 - 28/08/2004 00:04 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: tfabris]
SonicSnoop
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Thanks Tony! Ill give that a shot later tonight. I recorded the skins game so I will be in playback mode when I check it out.:) be nice to skip them commercials
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#230780 - 28/08/2004 04:01 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: morrisdl]
drakino
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Registered: 08/06/1999
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You can watch a 3 hour football game in 1 hour. Besides the commercial skip, the 30 sec skip works perfectly between plays

My ReplayTV records one NFL game a year, the Super Bowl. I watch it with the content advance feature, that way the annoyning game is automaticially skipped and I can see all the commercials. It's a hidden toggle that inverts the commercial skip logic.

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#230781 - 28/08/2004 04:03 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: SonicSnoop]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
*redskins spoiler (in case you haven't watched that recording yet)*


Lol. That was a game in which I used my before-mentioned techniques

I've really got to keep a running total of who on here lives in VA and the metro area in general. We should set up a meet
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#230782 - 28/08/2004 06:26 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: Dignan]
SonicSnoop
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Loc: Triangle, VA
I set my tivo up to record and went out to dinner, well it was spoiled for me then when i turn to look in the direction of the bar and see the 'lovely' score in the 4th with only a minute or so left. still went home and watched it playing with the 30sec skip tony told me about. Love that. tho my recording ended with 2:00 left in the game. That kinda annoyed me. guess I should start telling it to record 10min or so past the end of something. Loving the tivo so far tho.
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#230783 - 28/08/2004 15:26 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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the two little curly-que buttons, the ones that normally skip to the end or the beginning of a program, go forward 30 seconds and back five seconds
FWIW, the back-five-seconds one always goes back five seconds. It does not jump to the beginning. In order to get to the beginning, you hit the go-to-end button, then hit it again.
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#230784 - 28/08/2004 15:41 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: wfaulk]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
Heh, I didn't know that, I'd never used that button until after I'd gotten used to the 30 second skip feature.
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#230785 - 28/08/2004 18:09 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: tfabris]
SonicSnoop
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Registered: 29/06/2002
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you can still use that button to go to the end? I have tapped it many times to skip commercials in 30sec increments and it never went to the end. Or are you refering to another button?
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#230786 - 28/08/2004 18:52 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: SonicSnoop]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
No, you can't use that button to go to the end after you've programmed the 30-second-skip.

What Bitt was telling me was that if you haven't programmed the 30-second skip feature, the button is both the "go to end" and the "go to beginning" button. Press it once to go to the end, and a second time to go to the beginning.

I had stated the original purpose of the other button (the back-five-seconds button) incorrectly. It was always a back-five-seconds button, and the 30-second-skip feature does not change its behavior.
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#230787 - 28/08/2004 21:00 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: tfabris]
SonicSnoop
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Registered: 29/06/2002
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Loc: Triangle, VA
Oh ok.
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#230788 - 29/08/2004 03:11 Re: TiVo or ReplayTV or Other [Re: SonicSnoop]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
However, you can start fast forwarding and use the 30 second skip button to advance by tick marks as usual.
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