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#242059 - 11/12/2004 14:31 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: wfaulk]
biffstephens
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Registered: 11/12/2004
Posts: 1
Hey guys,

I got to this thread through Google, go figure. I have one of these units. I got it on ebay. It is pretty cool. I like it so far. BUT (there is always a but huh?) Apparently I bought a "preview" mod that someone was supposed to be previewing. There is no software to transfer the music. I know it is built on Linux. I can access the drive it is full of idx, dbm, and mp3 files. The mp3 files seem to be encoded at 128 but I can hear a tinny sound when there played....anyway that is not important....the files are named 6-0000001b.mp3 like that.....You guys have any idea how I can get music to this thing? I would love to get ahold of the beta software.....

ANY help would be great....

Biff

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#242060 - 11/12/2004 16:36 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: wfaulk]
hybrid8
carpal tunnel

Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
Wow, the reverse is true for me. I find that lately I listen to a CD before buying it. Also because I'm lazy, go figure.

I managed to listen to the last Charlatans album well before I found it available locally for instance (doesn't help that they don't have a NA record deal).

It's also easier to organize things on the empeg than with physical media. You don't want to see the mess of CDs I have stacked all over the place, not to mention my two large CD cabinets with discs all out of order (that I haven't sorted since moving last year).

Bruno
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#242061 - 11/12/2004 16:51 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: hybrid8]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Most of the stuff I buy I buy on speculation at the record store. They have listening stations for a lot of stuff and good recommendations. Not to mention that I couldn't find most of the stuff I listen to these days on P2P sites anyway, even if I tried really hard.
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#242062 - 11/12/2004 17:41 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: biffstephens]
andym
carpal tunnel

Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3991
Loc: Manchester UK
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You guys have any idea how I can get music to this thing?


Funnily enough, we're all quite proficient at using these things, this being an empeg forum and all.

Go to the banner at the top of the page and select Latest Software download 2.00final both the car software and Emplode (that's what you use to put music on it).

Everything else is in the FAQ read this before asking any more questions, it's all in there.
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#242063 - 11/12/2004 17:43 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: biffstephens]
andym
carpal tunnel

Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3991
Loc: Manchester UK
Oh yeah, don't hijack threads, just start a new one....

Just out of interest where did you get this unit from? Did it come with a sled, a box, a remote, any cables? Sounds slightly dodgy to me.....
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#242064 - 11/12/2004 17:45 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: andym]
peter
carpal tunnel

Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4159
Loc: Cambridge, England
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Oh yeah, don't hijack threads, just start a new one...

Either I've totally misread Biff's post, or you have. I think he's got an Estone, not an Empeg -- in which case he's on topic and we aren't...

Peter

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#242065 - 11/12/2004 17:47 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: peter]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31424
Loc: Seattle, WA
Oh no, now we've got a Biff and a Bitt on the board.

Is there a Bill to complete the trifecta?
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#242066 - 11/12/2004 17:51 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: peter]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3991
Loc: Manchester UK
Sorry, I read his post and assumed he mean't an empeg. Oh well, he's in the right thread, although sadly in the wrong forum.....
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#242067 - 11/12/2004 18:40 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: biffstephens]
drakino
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I can access the drive it is full of idx, dbm, and mp3 files. the files are named 6-0000001b.mp3

This sounds like the player uses an internal database to access music quicker much like the empeg we all have here. This also unfortunatly means to load music, you will need some sort of proper software to take your MP3s and generate the .idx and .dbm files, and to name them properly. I don't think anyone else around here has one to share the software.

Probably the best avenue would be to contact these folks about it, since they seem to be the only other reference to the product on the internet. I can't find anything about the actual manufacturer, EStone Digital.
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#242068 - 11/12/2004 21:03 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: drakino]
Shonky
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Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2004
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
Quote:

Probably the best avenue would be to contact these folks about it, since they seem to be the only other reference to the product on the internet. I can't find anything about the actual manufacturer, EStone Digital.


http://www.estone-tech.com/

I surprised how quickly Google found the thread actually.

Any chance of photos Biff? I'd like to see "true" close ups i.e. not marketing photos
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#242069 - 11/12/2004 21:11 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: Shonky]
drakino
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Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
Loc: Seattle, WA
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http://www.estone-tech.com/


Aha, reasons not to have a Flash only site. Google doesn't see a thing, and searching for the exact company of "EStone Digital" fails.
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#242070 - 12/12/2004 00:50 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: biffstephens]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Can't help with the software but I would love to see some pictures of the unit.
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#242071 - 12/12/2004 01:00 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: biffstephens]
Shonky
pooh-bah

Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2004
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
Biff,

According to the website it can work "PC free". i.e. the concept was it could rip it's own CDs. i.e. put the CD in and it has a CDDB database already loaded and it does all the ripping/tagging/naming for you.
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#40104192 120Gb (no longer in my E36 M3, won't fit the E46 M3)

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#242072 - 14/12/2004 22:52 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: sidorg]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
I was flipping through a new PC Magazine today and saw a full page, color ad for this.
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#242073 - 15/12/2004 10:19 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
peter
carpal tunnel

Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4159
Loc: Cambridge, England
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I was flipping through a new PC Magazine today and saw a full page, color ad for this.

Advertising an MP3 player? Surely that's cheating...

Peter

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#242074 - 15/12/2004 12:37 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: peter]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
I have to admit, when I saw that, I was thinking to myself "That's all it would have taken... one full page ad like this and the empeg would have been a hot product." Dont' waste time advertising to the audio snobs. Get the computer geek squad interested in it. Those are the people that spend $400 on a PC power supply!
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#242075 - 15/12/2004 15:56 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: sidorg]
Dignan
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12285
Loc: Sterling, VA
This thing looks pretty good, but I agree there's a big lack of info. At the very least, when empeg was small they had actual information () on their site, not some dumb-ass "experience" flash animation that does nothing but show an animated convertible driving though different locales. How stupid are the people running this company? When I saw the "experience" button I thought "great, it's a crappy flash site, but at least I'll get one of those virtual product tours." No dice.

I also have a question about the specs on the purchase page. It says "Capacities: 2GB*, 20GB (CDDB preinstalled)." What does that mean? Specifically, what's the "2GB*"

And Biff, you could try emailing the support address on Estone's website ([email protected]).

Anyway, while nothing is going to match the empeg in terms of quality and software, I agree that if anything could replace my empeg, this wouldn't be bad. I think one of the other important points to note is that it has a built-in amp, which I think was a big turn-off for a lot of geeks. I agree with you Brad, but I still think that the empeg was in a tough position. The car audiophiles didn't get the whole computer aspect, and the computer geeks refused to pay $1500 or more for a car stereo once you factored in the cost of an external amp and the installation.

Anyway, once the product picks up, we'll have to see what people say about it. Biff, what's your opinion on the quality of the device? Does it feel solidly built, or does it seem like cheaper plastic? If I bought something for that price, and the shiny "metal" finish started scraping off the knobs, I'd be pissed.

Lastly, I think there's one thing that's agreed, no product can ever create a following that could replace the empeg boards.
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#242076 - 15/12/2004 16:20 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: Dignan]
robricc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4919
Loc: Orange County, NY USA
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Lastly, I think there's one thing that's agreed, no product can ever create a following that could replace the empeg boards.

Wh4+ tH3 FUx0R @re j00 [email protected] 4BoU+? RiOv0lUtiON I5 +he H0+N355.
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#242077 - 15/12/2004 18:37 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: Dignan]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5328
Loc: Cambridge UK
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I agree with you Brad, but I still think that the empeg was in a tough position. The car audiophiles didn't get the whole computer aspect, and the computer geeks refused to pay $1500 or more for a car stereo once you factored in the cost of an external amp and the installation.

But you have to admit, we were a big hit with the remaining 0.05% of the market!

Rob

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#242078 - 15/12/2004 18:56 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: rob]
Dignan
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12285
Loc: Sterling, VA
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I agree with you Brad, but I still think that the empeg was in a tough position. The car audiophiles didn't get the whole computer aspect, and the computer geeks refused to pay $1500 or more for a car stereo once you factored in the cost of an external amp and the installation.

But you have to admit, we were a big hit with the remaining 0.05% of the market!

Without a doubt! Disposable income is groovy...
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#242079 - 15/12/2004 20:07 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: Dignan]
hybrid8
carpal tunnel

Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
Using the Estone is like reading a Chinese menu written in Mandarin when you only understand German. Damn, what a piece of crap interface. The empeg has its faults, but there's obviously not anyone interested in coming out with something *really* usable.

Bruno
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#242080 - 16/12/2004 01:23 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: robricc]
Daria
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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Lastly, I think there's one thing that's agreed, no product can ever create a following that could replace the empeg boards.

Wh4+ tH3 FUx0R @re j00 [email protected] 4BoU+? RiOv0lUtiON I5 +he H0+N355.


Never, ever do that again.

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#242081 - 17/12/2004 01:58 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: Daria]
FireFox31
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Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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Never, ever do that again.

For real. Google might pick it up and start sending R1o\/olü7i0n traffic to us.
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#242082 - 14/01/2005 21:05 Re: Estone Car MP3 Player Ripper-510 from zMedia [Re: hybrid8]
hybrid8
carpal tunnel

Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
I saw this unit at CES last week. And weak it was. Damn, it's ugly as sin. Destined for failure I believe. Especially with the ipod connection systems getting better all the time. Clarion now has iPod support on their in-car LCD (Macworld this week). The interface looks like garbage (further confirming Japanese companies don't know anything about interface design). But then you have choices from Dension (IceLink) and a new Monster Cable interface product. iPod will become the defacto in-car MP3 standard if it has not already.

Bruno
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