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#261219 - 25/07/2005 16:32 Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
Release notes here.

Downloads here.

Peter

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#261220 - 25/07/2005 16:36 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: peter]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Oooooh!
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#261221 - 25/07/2005 16:37 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: peter]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Thank you!!! Look forward to trying it tonight.
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#261222 - 25/07/2005 16:47 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: peter]
SonicSnoop
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Registered: 29/06/2002
Posts: 531
Loc: Triangle, VA
Which one should I download? I see
car2-developer-v3.00-alpha11.upgrade
car2-developer-v3.00JE-alpha11.upgrade
car2-developer-v3.00RE-alpha11.upgrade

Thanks!
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#261223 - 25/07/2005 16:50 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: SonicSnoop]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
JE = Japanese Edition, a.k.a. "Dave's personal build."
RE = Receiver Edition
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#261224 - 25/07/2005 16:51 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: SonicSnoop]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
From the release notes:
Quote:
This release comprises three different versions of the car-player
software:

* Standard Edition (car2-*-v3.00-alpha11.upgrade)

This is the successor to v3.00-alpha10, and is the one most users
should install.

* Japanese Edition (car2-*-v3.00JE-alpha11.upgrade)

This build contains glyphs for the JIS X0208 subset of Japanese
characters, in the larger font only. Because of this, the menus
and the "Info: Track" screen have been changed in the Japanese
edition to use only the larger font. Due to the increased size
of the font data, this edition is recommended for 16Mb (and
above) players only.

* Receiver Edition (car2-*-v3.00RE-alpha11.upgrade)

This build turns your car-player into a Rio Receiver-like home
audio player, capable only of playing audio content from a network
server, not from its own hard disks. You will need Rio Receiver
server software running somewhere on your network. Consult the
release notes for alpha 8 Receiver Edition for more details.
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#261225 - 25/07/2005 16:52 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: robricc]
SonicSnoop
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Registered: 29/06/2002
Posts: 531
Loc: Triangle, VA
Sorry bout that I saw that right after I posted
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#261226 - 25/07/2005 16:52 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: robricc]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Oh yeah, thanks guys for still supporting this player. It's really incredible.
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#261227 - 25/07/2005 16:52 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: peter]
Mataglap
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Registered: 11/06/2003
Posts: 384
Shiny!

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#261228 - 25/07/2005 17:33 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: peter]
Derek
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Registered: 16/08/1999
Posts: 453
Loc: NRW, Germany
Awesome! Thanks Peter!
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#261229 - 25/07/2005 17:35 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: peter]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14494
Loc: Canada
Super! Just in time for the Big Road Trip! Thanks, Guys!!

Installed it, working great (love the FAST startup time compared with earlier alphas!)

One nit I forgot to re-report (until now) is that visuals seem "muted" in FM Tuner mode -- particularly the AnnaVU, which never seems to bounce above 1/3 scale.

While this is all undoubtedly technically correct, I really prefered the older v2 behaviour where there was much more animation in the AnnaVU visual.

I wonder if I can address this in Hijack, by perhaps just upping the gain level for the sampling mechanism that drives the radio visuals? Any thoughts?

Cheers!

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#261230 - 25/07/2005 17:35 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: Derek]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
Quote:
Awesome! Thanks Peter!

I should've mentioned him in the release notes, probably, but Dave E deserves your thanks too: he did a lot of the work for this release, including all the tuner-related work.

Peter

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#261231 - 25/07/2005 17:37 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: peter]
elperepat
enthusiast

Registered: 11/01/2002
Posts: 211
Loc: Qc, Canada
Don't know if it's because I had to reflash or if it's the new release, but the bookmarking and playing order across reboot issues I had with 3.0A10 are ok now.

Slugginess is reduced to only a few seconds. Great!!!

Thanks a lot!
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#261232 - 25/07/2005 17:40 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: peter]
Defiler
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Registered: 23/09/2003
Posts: 50
Those release notes are tasty. I can't wait to get home and install this bad boy.

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#261233 - 25/07/2005 17:54 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: peter]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14494
Loc: Canada
And a reminder to those who have customized some things:

(1) If you use my ethernet upgrader utility to install v3a11, then you won't need to reinstall Hijack afterward, and the upgrade will happen much more quickly, as well.

(2) If you don't use upgrader, then the upgrade will overwrite Hijack, and you'll have to reinstall Hijack over (slow) serial afterward.

(3) The .upgrade file still includes the plain anna-vu visual, so you may want to redownload Tony's mucho macho vuback.raw into /empeg/lib/visuals to replace the default.

(4) If you are a fan of set_empeg_max_fid.v7 for dealing with LARGE playlists (including the down down down master shuffle), then you'll need to FTP it to the player and run it again after upgrading to v3a11.

(5) Any third party apps (such as empire and irattach and libopenobex-1.0.so.0) will probably need to be reinstalled after upgrading.

(6) If you have a largish ReserveCache=nn value in config.ini, you should substantially reduce it, as v3a11 now incorporates a hefty internal default for this. On my own 32MB player, I am using ReserveCache=32 now, which is still a lot, but going down to 0 increases the read-ahead stuttering too much for my liking.

It all seems to work great!


Edited by mlord (25/07/2005 18:58)

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#261234 - 25/07/2005 18:00 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: mlord]
frog51
pooh-bah

Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 2091
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
Away from home for a few days and this happens - I feel like thinfourth

Can't wait to get home to try it out - oh, hang on...maybe not, going away straight away for a long weekend to celebrate our 7th anniversary. Maybe my leetle empeg will have to take 2nd place for a few more days.

<sigh>

(p.s. thanks for the install info Mark - I always forget and end up reinstalling everything)
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#261235 - 25/07/2005 18:08 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: elperepat]
JBjorgen
carpal tunnel

Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
Quote:
Slugginess is reduced to only a few seconds. Great!!!


Same with my [broken] 16mb MK2. Will have to try on the main offender -- 32mb MK2a -- later tonight.

EDIT: Thanks Mark...in my haste, I overwrote my stuff too, so it was reinstall Hijack, animations and logos, etc...
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#261236 - 25/07/2005 19:02 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: peter]
Mataglap
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Registered: 11/06/2003
Posts: 384
It's not said in the release notes, so would you mind saying whether this is just built upon previous alphas or is it from the active karma/(rumored H4) branch including all of the other unspecified fixes like the early alphas did?

--Nathan

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#261237 - 25/07/2005 19:09 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: Mataglap]
peter
carpal tunnel

Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
Quote:
It's not said in the release notes, so would you mind saying whether this is just built upon previous alphas or is it from the active karma/(rumored H4) branch including all of the other unspecified fixes like the early alphas did?

Like alpha 10 before it, it's built from a branch dedicated to car v3. The branch-point was alpha 8; nothing since then has been changed on the branch except as noted in the alpha 10 and alpha 11 release notes.

Peter

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#261238 - 25/07/2005 19:20 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: peter]
Mataglap
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Registered: 11/06/2003
Posts: 384
Gracias for the info, and again for the release!

--Nathan

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#261239 - 25/07/2005 20:34 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: mlord]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Quote:
And a reminder to those who have customized some things:

(1) If you use my ethernet upgrader utility to install v3a11, then you won't need to reinstall Hijack afterward, and the upgrade will happen much more quickly, as well.

(2) If you don't use upgrader, then the upgrade will overwrite Hijack, and you'll have to reinstall Hijack over (slow) serial afterward.

(3) The .upgrade file still includes the plain anna-vu visual, so you may want to redownload Tony's mucho macho vuback.raw into /empeg/lib/visuals to replace the default.

(4) If you are a fan of set_empeg_max_fid.v7 for dealing with LARGE playlists (including the down down down master shuffle), then you'll need to FTP it to the player and run it again after upgrading to v3a11.

(5) Any third party apps (such as empire and irattach and libopenobex-1.0.so.0) will probably need to be reinstalled after upgrading.

(6) If you have a largish ReserveCache=nn value in config.ini, you should substantially reduce it, as v3a11 now incorporates a hefty internal default for this. On my own 32MB player, I am using ReserveCache=32 now, which is still a lot, but going down to 0 increases the read-ahead stuttering too much for my liking.

It all seems to work great!


Good points.

I prefer the "Sancho's Edit" of the VU visual because the screws are more random.

Another thing to reinstall is the .xml file from Mark Cushman.
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#261240 - 25/07/2005 20:53 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
Mataglap
enthusiast

Registered: 11/06/2003
Posts: 384
Quote:
Quote:
And a reminder to those who have customized some things:

(1) If you use my ethernet upgrader utility to install v3a11, then you won't need to reinstall Hijack afterward, and the upgrade will happen much more quickly, as well.

(2) If you don't use upgrader, then the upgrade will overwrite Hijack, and you'll have to reinstall Hijack over (slow) serial afterward.

(3) The .upgrade file still includes the plain anna-vu visual, so you may want to redownload Tony's mucho macho vuback.raw into /empeg/lib/visuals to replace the default.

(4) If you are a fan of set_empeg_max_fid.v7 for dealing with LARGE playlists (including the down down down master shuffle), then you'll need to FTP it to the player and run it again after upgrading to v3a11.

(5) Any third party apps (such as empire and irattach and libopenobex-1.0.so.0) will probably need to be reinstalled after upgrading.

(6) If you have a largish ReserveCache=nn value in config.ini, you should substantially reduce it, as v3a11 now incorporates a hefty internal default for this. On my own 32MB player, I am using ReserveCache=32 now, which is still a lot, but going down to 0 increases the read-ahead stuttering too much for my liking.

It all seems to work great!


Good points.

I prefer the "Sancho's Edit" of the VU visual because the screws are more random.

Another thing to reinstall is the .xml file from Mark Cushman.


And your programs0/programs1 directories, and whatever mechanish you use to mount them.

--Nathan

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#261241 - 26/07/2005 04:23 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: mlord]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
Hi Mark,
I just tried out the upgrader program, and man that's so much more convenient and faster than the serial method.

However, after playing around with the awesome alpha 11 (thanks Peter & Empeg/Rio!) I noticed half my playlists where missing, and a bunch of items were moved into a different root playlist. I ran emplode, and it saw the same structure. So I ran...

rm /drive0/var/database
rm /drive0/var/database3
rm /drive0/var/tags
rm /drive0/var/playlists

and rebooted the player, and everything was back to normal.

I'm not sure if you've tested going from 2.10 to 3.00 a11, but that's what I did.

Anyways, I love the ethernet upgrader so much I can finally unplug this serial cable!
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#261242 - 26/07/2005 11:07 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: peter]
genixia
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
Fantastic! Thanks!

Now I just need to find a little time to install it.
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#261243 - 26/07/2005 11:36 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: peter]
AndrewT
old hand

Registered: 16/02/2002
Posts: 867
Loc: Oxford, UK
Quote:
The following tuner settings can be tweaked in the config file, in
the "[radio]" section:
"search_level", defaults to ((60*65535)/100)
- min signal strength to stop on when seeking
"ta_switch_level", defaults to ((60*65535)/100)
- min signal strength to change to if there's a TA
"af_switch_level", defaults to ((50*65535)/100)
- min signal strength to consider retune for AF


Thank you empeg guys!

I'd like to clarify my understanding of the parameters here... For instance, am I correct in thinking that the default AF level is equivalent to "af_switch_level=50"?

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#261244 - 26/07/2005 11:58 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: AndrewT]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Looks to me like it defaults to 32767 (and a half).
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#261245 - 26/07/2005 15:28 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: wfaulk]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3996
Loc: Manchester UK
Thanks guys, you are both gentlemen and scholars. It seems like you've addressed many issues now, what's left before it becomes beta? I've been using v3 since alpha 3 and since the release at Amersfoort last year with support for 32+MB players it's been very stable with few perceived problems.
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#261246 - 26/07/2005 16:24 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: andym]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Quote:
...what's left before it becomes beta?

I think it was once said that it won't be beta until it works on Mk1 units.
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#261247 - 26/07/2005 16:48 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: robricc]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
Aren't the memory requirements too high for an unmodified MK1?

I can see it possibly working on one of the few that has been upgraded to 16mb, but it seems 8mb might be a little slim.
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#261248 - 26/07/2005 17:19 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: JBjorgen]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3996
Loc: Manchester UK
Ah right, that could be an impossible task, not without having the discs spun up all the time and no cacheing.
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