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#26596 - 14/02/2001 05:50 Standby light doing funny things.
debauch
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Registered: 22/03/2000
Posts: 217
Loc: West Midlands, England

So, I come back from lunch and look at the Empeg. The standby light is pulsing very strangely.

It's still doing its fade in and out, but very jerkily then, every third pulse or so, it goes completely doo-lally - it starts fading out, then pings back to full beam, starts fading out, pings back, fades out jerkily then flashes on/off quickly, then goes back to normal (jerky still).

Very very strange.

I'm now about to pull the power and see if that sorts it.

No. Still doing it.

Hmmm. Very strange.

Nick.


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#26597 - 14/02/2001 06:03 Re: Standby light doing funny things. [Re: debauch]
teemcbee
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Same thing when switched on and then off again?

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#26598 - 14/02/2001 06:36 Re: Standby light doing funny things. [Re: teemcbee]
debauch
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Registered: 22/03/2000
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Loc: West Midlands, England

Yes. I've done everything short of putting it on the floor and jumping on it and it's still doing it.

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#26599 - 14/02/2001 07:37 Re: Standby light doing funny things. [Re: debauch]
Dearing
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Registered: 22/07/1999
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Loc: Florida
I've done everything short of putting it on the floor and jumping on it and it's still doing it.
That would probably stop the LED flashing.


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#26600 - 14/02/2001 10:41 Re: Standby light doing funny things. [Re: debauch]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
Jwickis also posted this problem a little while back.

He said he thought it was the sensor switch that detects whether the unit is getting its power from the AC adaptor or the car docking sled. I don't know if there was ever a definitive "yes that is the problem for sure" post, but check out this FAQ entry and see if you are having these symptoms.

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#26601 - 14/02/2001 10:58 Re: Standby light doing funny things. [Re: tfabris]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
The DC power plug sensor really shouldn't be affecting the front panel LED. Does the flickering still happen when the unit is in standby and you ctrl-C the player (dropping it into a shell on the developer image).

Hugo



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#26602 - 14/02/2001 13:55 Re: Standby light doing funny things. [Re: altman]
debauch
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Registered: 22/03/2000
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Loc: West Midlands, England
In reply to:

Does the flickering still happen when the unit is in standby and you ctrl-C the player (dropping it into a shell on the developer image).



No.

Hmmm.

Now here's something interesting - it only seems to flicker weirdly when the selected visual is "Toilet floor". Change to any other (well, OK, I've not been through them all) and it goes back to fading in and out normally.

Nick.

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#26603 - 14/02/2001 14:36 Re: Standby light doing funny things. [Re: debauch]
Terminator
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Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
I've just tested mine and it does the exact same thing. Ive also noticed that the soundflag and rorscach (sp?) visual will just fill in the whole screen almost solid and leave it that way-I don't think its supposed to work like that.

Sean


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#26604 - 14/02/2001 14:52 Re: Standby light doing funny things. [Re: debauch]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
Now here's something interesting - it only seems to flicker weirdly when the selected visual is "Toilet floor".

ROFL!!!!!!!!

Good catch. Same thing here.

So, Hugo, I expect you'll fill us in on how this very interesting bug happened?

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#26605 - 14/02/2001 14:53 Re: Standby light doing funny things. [Re: altman]
Terminator
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Registered: 12/01/2000
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Loc: Dallas, TX
When I cntrl-c the player, the visual locks up and stays on the screen. I can still access the bash prompt though.

sean

Edited by Terminator on 14/02/01 09:55 PM.


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#26606 - 14/02/2001 15:38 Re: Standby light doing funny things. [Re: tfabris]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
Erm, the light is flickering (or doing anything at all, for that matter) when the display is ON?!

Hugo



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#26607 - 14/02/2001 15:48 Re: Standby light doing funny things. [Re: altman]
fvgestel
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Registered: 12/08/2000
Posts: 702
Loc: Netherlands
No, when the visual is off; the problem occurs when the visual is running and the empeg is set in standby mode. I noticed in displayserver that the visual is still running while the empeg is in standby mode.

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#26608 - 14/02/2001 15:53 Re: Standby light doing funny things. [Re: altman]
Terminator
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Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
No, the light only turns on and off when the player is in standby.




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#26609 - 14/02/2001 17:15 Re: Standby light doing funny things. [Re: fvgestel]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
Yes, it just powers the screen down. Needs fixing at some point, really...

This may well affect the standby light; there is a mode you can put it into where the LCD databus will directly control the light, allowing you to do custom patterns in-kernel. It shouldn't be getting into this mode, but it could be the display not being disabled correctly.

Hugo



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#26610 - 14/02/2001 17:29 Re: Standby light doing funny things. [Re: altman]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
This may well affect the standby light; there is a mode you can put it into where the LCD databus will directly control the light, allowing you to do custom patterns in-kernel.

Interesting!

So I wonder what other visual will induce this? I would think it'd be all the visuals that keep moving around even when there's no music.

Yup... Just checked. Fantasy Fishnets does it, too. So does BorgBeat. Heh, this is kind of cool.

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#26611 - 14/02/2001 18:27 Re: Standby light doing funny things. [Re: tfabris]
jwickis
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Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 658
Loc: India
I thought it might be the power switcher on mine because at the time I was getting only the 2 channel EQ in my car. Apparantly when I brought it back in to the house the visual was a different one and evrything seemed fine w/the standby LED. Well I'm happy now that my power sensor isn't getting faulty.

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#26612 - 14/02/2001 18:35 Re: Standby light doing funny things. [Re: tfabris]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5549
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
Just checked. Fantasy Fishnets does it, too. So does BorgBeat. Heh, this is kind of cool.

Awwww, c'mon, Tony. Get a life!

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#26613 - 14/02/2001 23:50 Re: Standby light doing funny things. [Re: tfabris]
teemcbee
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Registered: 04/02/2000
Posts: 687
You could see it the other way, too - selecting a special visual is selecting a special flash-pattern of the standby LED, too. Isn't that funny anyhow?

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#26614 - 15/02/2001 15:53 Re: Standby light doing funny things. [Re: debauch]
jwickis
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Registered: 24/08/2000
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Loc: India
The standby LED doesn't act weird, if the playlist has ended and turned off. The LED almost acts as if it might be beating with the music that's not playing anymore.

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