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#271320 - 02/12/2005 17:49 Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question
Robotic
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Registered: 06/04/2005
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Loc: Seattle transplant
Hi all-
I began with Mozilla at work and really got used to it. I installed FireFox at home to see the differences.
One of the things I got used to with Mozilla that I can't seem to replicate in FireFox is using the address field as a google search field.
That is- start typing in the address field and one of the options in the drop down list is a google search for what I've just typed. Nice. Love it. Want it in FireFox.

Oh- one more thing-
Page searching for text. In Mozilla, anytime I just start typing (not entering data to a field) the page in the browser is scanned for the word I'm typing out. Easy. Nice. Handy.
In FireFox, I have to get a 'Find text in page' dialog up before I can start the search (and press 'enter' after typing in the search field). Yuck. Cumbersome.

I'd go all FireFox if I could easily mimick the things I like about Mozilla. (all I'm after is the browser, anyways) Any ideas?

If it matters- I'm running Win2k at work and WinME at home.
Thanks in advance- Stew
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#271321 - 02/12/2005 18:22 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: Robotic]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Preferences->Advanced->Accessibility->Begin finding when you begin typing
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#271322 - 02/12/2005 18:27 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: Robotic]
wfaulk
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I know what you're talking about with respect to the search entry in the URL bar list, but I don't know any way to replicate it with Firefox. However, I can suggest this:

Go to Google (or whatever search engine you like) and right-click in the text entry field. Select "Add a Keyword for this search". It'll pop up a dialog that asks you to enter a keyword and a name. Enter an appropriate name (it's just a descriptor) and then enter a short keyword. (I use "g".) Then you can type into the URL bar "g search items" and hit return and it'll perform that search for you. I find that even easier than the thing you're describing.
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#271323 - 02/12/2005 18:29 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: wfaulk]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
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Loc: Austin
Try just typing your search into the address bar and pressing enter. Mine is setup (don't remember what I did) to search google if no valid URL is present.

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#271324 - 02/12/2005 18:32 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: RobotCaleb]
lastdan
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Registered: 31/05/2002
Posts: 352
Loc: santa cruz,ca
my understanding is that by default if you type into the address bar it will be treated like a 'I'm feeling lucky' google search. I'm dang near sure of it.

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#271325 - 02/12/2005 18:36 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: lastdan]
RobotCaleb
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Loc: Austin
Ahh, maybe that's it. I don't actually ever search that way. I hit alt-d shift-tab to get to the search bar.

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#271326 - 02/12/2005 18:42 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: lastdan]
wfaulk
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Yeah, that's true. I forgot because I hate that. I don't want a search when I mistype a domain name. But now I can't remember where I changed it.

Edit: Oh yeah, it's the option keyword.enabled.


Edited by wfaulk (02/12/2005 18:52)
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#271327 - 02/12/2005 18:48 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: wfaulk]
lectric
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Loc: New Orleans, LA
Amen, I hate that too. In fact, when I get anything other than 404 I know I have been infected by adware.

If only they'd make ctrl-enter append the www. and .com I'd be so frickin thrilled. On IE, I used to type google ctrl-enter and I was there. Loved that.

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#271328 - 02/12/2005 18:54 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: lectric]
wfaulk
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Works that way for me.
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#271329 - 02/12/2005 18:56 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: wfaulk]
lectric
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Eventually, but it takes like 20 seconds.

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#271330 - 02/12/2005 19:01 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: lectric]
wfaulk
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Uh, for me, if I type "google" and just hit enter, it tries a bunch of different things and eventually gets to www.google.com. If I type "google" and hit Ctrl-Enter, it immediately goes to www.google.com.
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#271331 - 02/12/2005 19:10 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: wfaulk]
lectric
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Loc: New Orleans, LA
REALLY?! Mine definitely does not. Time to upgrade, methinks.

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#271332 - 02/12/2005 19:31 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: Robotic]
Robotic
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Loc: Seattle transplant
Thanks everyone!
There's a lot more about FireFox that I should learn. This is great stuff!
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#271333 - 02/12/2005 19:38 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: wfaulk]
RobotCaleb
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Loc: Austin
I believe shift-enter does www. and .org
I don't have the browser on this machine, so I can't test.

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#271334 - 02/12/2005 19:41 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: Robotic]
Attack
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Registered: 01/03/2002
Posts: 599
Loc: Florida
In Firefox
/ to find text on the page
' to find links on the page

I just wish that when I search for link that I could hit something to find the next match. If you hit enter it opens the link. Yes I can use the mouse to click find next but then I have to take my hand off the keyboard.
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#271335 - 02/12/2005 19:48 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: Attack]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Control-G works for me.
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#271336 - 02/12/2005 20:03 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: wfaulk]
Attack
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Thanks!!!!!!
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#271337 - 02/12/2005 20:04 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: RobotCaleb]
ricin
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Registered: 19/06/2000
Posts: 1495
Loc: US: CA
Ctrl-K goes directly to the search bar.
Ctrl-L (and Alt-D*) go to the location bar.



*I'm trying to break the habit of using Alt-D because some sites use that as a shortcut. I.e. Mediawiki sites use it for "Delete" and that can be highly annoying. :/
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#271338 - 02/12/2005 22:15 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: Robotic]
music
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Registered: 25/06/2002
Posts: 456
Quote:
One of the things I got used to with Mozilla that I can't seem to replicate in FireFox is using the address field as a google search field.


In my version of Firefox, you can type "google whatever" into the address bar to get a Google search.

You can also type "goto whatever" to get a Google "I feel lucky" search.

You can also customize this; for example, mine is set up so I can do "imdb whatever" to get an imdb search (movies and actors). (Because it really sucks if I ever have to try to view the IMDB front page over dialup. Best to bypass that nonsense and just jump directly to the good stuff.)

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#271339 - 03/12/2005 08:21 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: lectric]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
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Loc: London, UK
Quote:
On IE, I used to type google ctrl-enter and I was there.


Personally, I just have a google search box at the bottom of my browser home page, which otherwise contains a bunch of links to stuff I visit frequently.
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#271340 - 03/12/2005 18:01 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: Robotic]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
Let me add a couple of Firefox questions of my own:
  • Is it possible to add or change keyboard shortcuts?
  • Is it possible to make shift-click open the link in new tab (as opposed to new window)? Selecting 'Force links that open new windows to open in new tab' doesn't do this.
    (Edit: ah, ctrl-click does that; OK)
  • Can new tabs be made to open next to the current one, rather than at the end, at the rightmost position?
  • How to make bookmark links open in a new tab (other than right-clicking and selecting the appropriate option there)?
    (Edit: ctrl-click again! You can see I am a Firefox newbie... )


Edited by bonzi (03/12/2005 18:13)

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#271341 - 03/12/2005 18:20 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: bonzi]
wfaulk
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You might be interested in the Tabbrowser Extensions extension. The questions you ask are dealt with better by it than by the default answers you list, IMO. Check it out.
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#271342 - 03/12/2005 18:53 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: bonzi]
wfaulk
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I'm not aware of a user interface to change keyboard accelerators, but if you're compelled to do it, you might check out this page about keyboard accelerators in extensions. You could probably put something together with it.

Edit: Nevermind. Here's the Keyconfig Extension.


Edited by wfaulk (03/12/2005 18:59)
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#271343 - 03/12/2005 21:54 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: wfaulk]
bonzi
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Ah, more interesting stuff to keep me from doing Real Work . Thanks, Bitt!
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#271344 - 03/12/2005 23:01 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: bonzi]
RobotCaleb
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Middle clicking a link opens in new tab. Middle clicking a tab closes that tab.

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#271345 - 04/12/2005 01:46 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: RobotCaleb]
msaeger
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Anyone know a way to make the middle click open a new window instead of a tab. I don't like the tabs.
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#271346 - 04/12/2005 22:24 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: msaeger]
Mataglap
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Registered: 11/06/2003
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Multiple windows? You're crazy. But the easiest way to do that is to leverage one of the tabbrowser config extensions where you choose the option between new window or new tab.

With the radial context extension, it's right-click-drag-left.

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#271347 - 05/12/2005 23:36 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: Robotic]
Robotic
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Also found this page while surfing through the extensions list:
http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html#prefs
Haven't tried any of it, though.
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#271348 - 05/12/2005 23:47 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: Robotic]
msaeger
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Quote:

middlemouse. openNewWindow

Determines behavior of middlemouse.contentLoadURL when that preference is true.
True (default): Open links that are middle-clicked in a new window


So do they really mean new tab not new window ?
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#271349 - 06/12/2005 03:05 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: msaeger]
gbeer
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Quote:
Quote:

middlemouse. openNewWindow

Determines behavior of middlemouse.contentLoadURL when that preference is true.
True (default): Open links that are middle-clicked in a new window


So do they really mean new tab not new window ?


I'd expect... New window, unless one of the other options that demand new windows be opened in tabs is also set.
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#271350 - 06/12/2005 10:11 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: gbeer]
msaeger
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I didn't see any options for tabs and this is one by default.
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#271351 - 06/12/2005 13:38 Re: Quick Mozilla/Firefox Question [Re: msaeger]
wfaulk
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Honestly, I believe that that just turns the middle-click feature on and off, regardless of the details. I've got too many extensions about tabs to check it well, ATM, though.
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