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#271565 - 07/12/2005 00:55 WTF
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5549
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
I'm looking at a bottle of "Mountain Dew MDX Sugar-Free Energy Soda".

It says so right on the bottle.

Nutrition Facts:

Calories: 0
Total Fat: 0g
Sodium: 30mg
Total Carb: 0g
Sugars: 0g
Protein: 0g

"Not a significant source of other nutrients"

So can someone please tell me how the hell this can be an energy drink? Ah, boy, that 30 mg of Sodium just perked me right up!

tanstaafl.
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#271566 - 07/12/2005 01:05 Re: WTF [Re: tanstaafl.]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Is placebo an ingredient
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#271567 - 07/12/2005 01:23 Re: WTF [Re: tanstaafl.]
gbeer
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Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/mountain_dew_mdx/facts.asp
Quote:
MDX Sugar Free

Ingredients: Carbonated water, natural flavors, citric acid, potassium benzoate, citrus pectin, gaurana seed extract, d-ribose, caffeine, maltodextrin, gum arabic, acesulfame potassium, sucralose, inverted sugar syrup, yellow #5, ascorbic acid, calcium disodium EDTA, taurine, panax ginseng extract, strawberry juice concentrate, sodium benzoate, brominated vegetable oil, blue #1

Nutrition Facts: Serving size: 8 fl oz; Servings per container: 2; Amount per serving: Calories: 0; Total fat: 0g; Sodium: 30mg; Total carbs: 0g; Sugars: 0g; Protein: 0g


Seems a lot like caffeinated gatorade.

This is the first time I can remember seeing left hand sugars in a food product.

Edit: my bad, left handed and inverted sugars are not the same thing.


Edited by gbeer (07/12/2005 04:25)

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#271568 - 07/12/2005 01:37 Re: WTF [Re: tanstaafl.]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
Slightly related. I received this in July.

http://gallery.l0ser.net/v/daily/2005daily/200507/20050722/

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#271569 - 07/12/2005 02:51 Re: WTF [Re: RobotCaleb]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
Well? Was it good? Nasty?

Oh, and the "energy" part no doubt comes from caffeine as well as the Guarana, Ginseng, and Taurine.


Edited by lectric (07/12/2005 02:53)

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#271570 - 07/12/2005 02:57 Re: WTF [Re: gbeer]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
What the hell is inverted sugar syrup? Splenda syrup? Ewwwwww... I can't get the thought of the warning on Olestra out of my mind long enough to try undigestible sugar.

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#271571 - 07/12/2005 04:31 Re: WTF [Re: lectric]
gbeer
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Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
Wiki on inverted sugar. Could this possibly why well made fudge comes out smooth.
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#271572 - 07/12/2005 14:34 Re: WTF [Re: gbeer]
Robotic
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Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
I was just reading Wikipedia's entries on energy drinks about a week and a half ago.
You don't want to know what Taurine comes from.
It's not a stimulant, either- it supposedly acts to enhance the body's reaction to caffeine.
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#271573 - 07/12/2005 14:36 Re: WTF [Re: Robotic]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12338
Loc: Sterling, VA
Quote:
You don't want to know what Taurine comes from.

Just read it. Yum yum. I'm trying to formulate a good Red Bull joke to go with it, but it's just not coming together.
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#271574 - 07/12/2005 16:41 Re: WTF [Re: gbeer]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
At least in the US, well made fudge comes out smooth because of the use of a little corn syrup in addition to the regular sugar. But it seems like you ought to be able to use invert syrup, too, as it's the glucose that keeps the sucrose from crystallizing as easily.
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#271575 - 07/12/2005 17:36 Re: WTF [Re: lectric]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
Quote:
Well? Was it good? Nasty?

Oh, and the "energy" part no doubt comes from caffeine as well as the Guarana, Ginseng, and Taurine.


I don't know. I haven't opened any of them. I don't do caffeine.

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#271576 - 07/12/2005 18:09 Re: WTF [Re: Dignan]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Just ask someone if they know what red bull's secret ingredient is. When they say they don't show them the ingredients with your finger over the Ta of Taurine.

-Zeke
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#271577 - 07/12/2005 18:50 Re: WTF [Re: Ezekiel]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
Bam. You've been Snoped.

Quote:
Despite whatever conclusions one might draw from the name, Red Bull contains no substances of animal origin. Even the taurine used in the formulation is synthetically produced.
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#271578 - 07/12/2005 18:56 Re: WTF [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
It's a joke. Natural taurine comes from bovine bile, anyway, not urine.
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#271579 - 07/12/2005 19:39 Re: WTF [Re: tfabris]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Yeah, I never said it was true, just funny! I declare shennanigans on being Snoped for a snipe! SHENNANIGANS! SHENNANIGANS!

Everybody get your brooms!

-Zeke
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#271580 - 07/12/2005 21:43 Re: WTF [Re: tanstaafl.]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
Quote:
So can someone please tell me how the hell this can be an energy drink?

Cold fusion?
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#271581 - 08/12/2005 03:38 Re: WTF [Re: gbeer]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
OK, then how do they do the 0 calorie part? If it just splits it into 2 different sugars, it's still sugar, right?

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#271582 - 08/12/2005 06:26 Re: WTF [Re: Dignan]
frog51
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Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 2091
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
When I used to do a lot of weight training, most of the drinks I made up had Taurine, Inositol and Choline - the combination appeared to be a very good fat and sugar metaboliser. If it wasn't for the high stress they place on the heart, I'm sure they'd get mileage out of selling them as diet drinks:)
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#271583 - 08/12/2005 13:57 Re: WTF [Re: lectric]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
There's probably so little in there that it ends up being less than one calorie. At any rate, there's some point where "small" becomes "zero" according to the US agency that regulates food labelling.
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#271584 - 08/12/2005 14:00 Re: WTF [Re: wfaulk]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
Quote:
There's probably so little in there that it ends up being less than one calorie. At any rate, there's some point where "small" becomes "zero" according to the US agency that regulates food labelling.

I bought a box of Tic-tacs, or some similar small mint, in the US once, and idly read the label. "Ingredients: sugar, flavouring. Contains: sugar 0g". But there was an asterisk attached to the 0g, and in the footnote it said "Less than 0.4g". So I did the division, and the mints weighed 0.39g each. They did indeed consist almost entirely of sugar.

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#271585 - 08/12/2005 14:19 Re: WTF [Re: peter]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
First, I'm amazed that anyone in the US still makes any mints out of sugar. It seems to be all sorbitol and other sugar alcohols lately.

Second, they were supposed to rectify the labelling to have a reasonable "serving size" so that you couldn't have things where they'd sell you a candy bar labelled "50 Calories" but list the serving size as a quarter of the bar. Then again, I suppose, since it's a mint and not a candy, one TicTac might be considered a legitimate serving size.
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#271586 - 08/12/2005 18:13 Re: WTF [Re: peter]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
This doesn't agree.

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