#281497 - 16/05/2006 11:43
New 13" Macbook
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Maaan, that is so tempting! I knew I should have eBay'd my 12" Powerbook last week. I want it, a Black one. Link
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#281498 - 16/05/2006 11:56
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: sein]
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Registered: 13/07/2000
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I want it, a Black one.
Everyone says that. That'll be why the black one costs £60 more than the white one even after the bigger disk is taken into account...
Peter
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#281499 - 16/05/2006 14:35
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: peter]
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5.2 pounds. Yawn. Call me when Apple has something under 4 pounds.
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#281500 - 16/05/2006 14:47
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: DWallach]
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Really. All the drawbacks of being small without any of those pesky benefits.
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#281501 - 16/05/2006 15:00
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: peter]
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$150 extra here in the US for the black version. Really strange, since the black iPods don't carry a premium price tag.
Oh well, ordering a 1.83 white one anyhow for my sister. Should be a great little system for school when she starts college in the fall.
Also, the MacBook Pros saw a few upgrades too. They now have a glossy screen option, and the 15 inch ones were bumped to 2.0 on the low end and 2.16 on the high end. Good to see Apple is going to keep their portable lines competitive with the rest of the industry with the same chips.
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#281502 - 16/05/2006 15:47
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: DWallach]
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Registered: 29/08/2000
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Loc: Canada
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5.2 pounds. Yawn. Call me when Apple has something under 4 pounds.
Yawn.. and call me when they've got something around a kilogram or so (~2.5 pounds).  (still happy with the Dell X1 here)
But seriously, these look like great machines! Go Apple Go!
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#281503 - 16/05/2006 16:02
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: sein]
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Registered: 17/01/2002
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Loc: Manchester UK
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Maaan, that is so tempting!
Me likey!!!
Had my iBook for 18 months now..... Maybe it's time for an upgrade?
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#281504 - 16/05/2006 16:07
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: andym]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/02/2002
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Loc: Berkeley, California
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Had my iBook for 18 months now..... Maybe it's time for an upgrade?
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. (I'm trying to justify a MBP, and have had my PB for 15 months)
Matthew
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#281506 - 16/05/2006 20:37
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: hybrid8]
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Helium apparently can hoist 1g per liter. Ten pounds is 4.5kg, so you'd need 4.5K liters of helium. That's roughly speaking a balloon two meters in diameter. We could shrink that down by using hydrogen, of course, which could double as a fuel source for your laptop. I hope you don't smoke.
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#281507 - 16/05/2006 23:05
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: DWallach]
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Mac-Zeppelin? Oh the humanity...
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#281508 - 17/05/2006 01:52
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: gbeer]
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Mac-Zeppelin? Oh the humanity...
The way some of them bad boys have been overheating, maybe not so far-fetched. Mine gets pretty damn hot when doing a long software build, but no overheating yet. *knock on aluminum*
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#281509 - 17/05/2006 02:14
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: mlord]
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Exactly ! I wan't 2lbs with no built in cdrom.
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#281510 - 17/05/2006 03:20
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: drakino]
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First impressions, the keyboard is strange. I'm not really sure how to describe it, but it feels very different then my MacBook Pro. Also the touchpad has a slightly rough surface, instead of the really smooth surface on the MBP. The magnetic latch is pretty cool. The screen is very nice looking, a very good upgrade over what I saw on the iBooks. Very bright, crisp and a decent resolution for this size.
They are selling pretty quickly too it seems. The local Apple store here in Austin sold me their last 1.83 unit, and tons of people were crowded around the show models contemplating one. Looks like a great hit for Apple.
Now to see what they do for the PowerMacs. I'm sure Apple can't wait for Intel to release the Core 2 chips.
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#281511 - 17/05/2006 11:08
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: drakino]
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Despite reading a number of people write/complain about the Mac's premium pricing, I think they're priced very respectably. Configuring a name-brand Windows box with similar specs can give you a higher price in some cases. It's a lot easier to compare apples to apples now but for some reason those trying to make a point feel fine ignoring things like DVI, Firewire, the price of XP Pro and sometimes even comparing against a Celeron-equipped PC.
It's a shame they don't have any commercials out right now that actually feature their products. I don't know how well the stand-up comedic ones will do to bring over people who would not otherwise buy a Mac instead of something like a Dell.
Bruno
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#281512 - 17/05/2006 16:29
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: sein]
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Registered: 07/01/2005
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Maaan, that is so tempting! I knew I should have eBay'd my 12" Powerbook last week. I want it, a Black one.
I just did it... a 1.87GHz White Macbook with 1GB RAM should be here in a few days. I can't wait!
My 12" Powerbook has served me well for 3 years. Hopefully this little Intel number will go a bit longer.
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#281513 - 17/05/2006 20:42
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: sein]
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Registered: 14/01/2002
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I'm a mac virgin with questions...
How hard is it to move from windows to Mac? (I'll admit I'm terrified!)
Are MS Office files interchangable between Win and Mac versions?
I have more but I'll just bore everyone.
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#281514 - 17/05/2006 20:53
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: CrackersMcCheese]
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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How hard is it to move from windows to Mac? (I'll admit I'm terrified!)
Pretty easy. The only differences are minor.
Biggest thing to get used to is the keys for text editing. The "Home" and "End" keys on the mac keyboard are completely useless, and everything you expect to do with the Alt and Control keys is totally backwards from what you're used to in Windows. That's really all that gives me trouble.
Please have a look here for a day-by-day account of a Windows user (me) getting used to a mac mini.
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Are MS Office files interchangable between Win and Mac versions?
Yes. More or less.
I didn't buy MS Office for the mac, instead preferring to try one of the OpenOffice ports. I am unhappy about this, as nothing opens .DOC files properly on the Mac including all the images except for real live MS Office itself. A simple document file with one picture in the corner, for example, doesn't open correctly in OpenOffice (the picture is missing). So if Office file interchangeability is important, then definitely buy MS Office for the mac, too.
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#281515 - 17/05/2006 20:59
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: CrackersMcCheese]
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Registered: 12/02/2002
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Loc: Berkeley, California
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How hard is it to move from windows to Mac? (I'll admit I'm terrified!)
Easy. As long as learning something new doesn't fill you with dread. Of course, if it does, you've got bigger problems.
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Are MS Office files interchangable between Win and Mac versions?
Yes. I've never had a problem. If you make your living editing complex documents where the layout is paramount, it might be a problem, but I've never encountered any dificulties.
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I have more but I'll just bore everyone.
Feel free. With a intel mac running parallels there just aren't any excuses. The thing I miss the most is mp3 tag studio, but I'm getting used to media rage.
Matthew
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#281516 - 18/05/2006 19:22
Re: New 13" Macbook
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If you make your living editing complex documents where the layout is paramount, it might be a problem
If that's the case, his bigger problem is that he's using MS Office to do it.
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#281517 - 19/05/2006 11:13
Re: New 13" Macbook
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his bigger problem is that he's using MS Office to do it.
Amen. Two words for why Word sucks for complex layouts: text reflow.
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#281518 - 19/05/2006 12:29
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: tfabris]
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preferring to try one of the OpenOffice ports. I am unhappy about this, as nothing opens .DOC files properly on the Mac including all the images except for real live MS Office itself. A simple document file with one picture in the corner, for example, doesn't open correctly in OpenOffice (the picture is missing).
Yeah, same here, and the main reason why I won't be changing our network over to OpenOffice when we upgrade from NT4.0. I prefer the feel of OpenOffice but I've had plenty of .docs that don't display all the elements correctly in it.
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#281519 - 19/05/2006 14:25
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: tahir]
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but I've had plenty of .docs that don't display all the elements correctly in it.
And searching through their FAQs and Wikis doesn't seem to indicate that they even know this is a problem...
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#281520 - 19/05/2006 14:28
Re: New 13" Macbook
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Registered: 14/01/2002
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Ok so looks like Office for both. I just use Office because the rest of the world does! Not for any fancy stuff.
I suppose I'm wondering "how much would I need to run back to the PC for certain tasks". Silly things like TmpgEnc and MSN Messenger etc.
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#281521 - 19/05/2006 14:36
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: CrackersMcCheese]
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Silly things like TmpgEnc and MSN Messenger etc.
MSN Messenger is handled nicely by any number of applications for the Mac. I use Adium, for example, and it works quite well.
I don't know much about video encoding, but I'm sure there's a similar solution on the Mac.
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#281522 - 19/05/2006 14:41
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 14/01/2002
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I'm also totally out of date with laptop technology. How does 2Ghz compare to my Dell desktop which is a P4 2.4Ghz? Or my Dell Notebook (x300) with a Pentium M 1.7?
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#281523 - 19/05/2006 14:43
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: CrackersMcCheese]
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Registered: 27/02/2004
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I just use Office because the rest of the world does! Not for any fancy stuff.
Same here, only becomes an issue if someone has perhaps mailed you a .doc that includes contact details as an image which isn't displayed. Docs created in OO appear to be fine in MS Word.
Got to be more than just me and Tony with that issue?
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#281524 - 19/05/2006 14:47
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: CrackersMcCheese]
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Registered: 12/02/2002
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I suppose I'm wondering "how much would I need to run back to the PC for certain tasks". Silly things like TmpgEnc and MSN Messenger etc.
Adium will supper MSN messenger, I'm fairly sure. TmpgEnc I'm not so sure about, as I've never used it. I use ffmpeg on a linux server for my video encoding needs, but they're a specific, daily scripted kind of thing. FFmpeg would run on osx, along with just about any other command line unix program. If you're looking to transcode DVDs, I'm sure it's possible.
I havn't encountered a "normal computing need" that can't be done on a mac. If you insist that email has to be read in eudora, then you might have a problem. If your company insists you run lotus notes, then you might have a problem. If there aren't any specific applications you have to have, and you just want to accomplish tasks, the likelyhood that you can find a task that can't be accomplished is minimal.
Matthew
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#281525 - 19/05/2006 15:09
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: mlord]
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Registered: 19/09/2002
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Loc: East Coast, USA
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call me when they've got something around a kilogram or so (~2.5 pounds). (still happy with the Dell X1 here)
Don't forget the Lenovo X41 convertible tablets. I'm still happy with my 7 of those at work; so are all my users!
Oh, and they're black like the Mac, so that makes them cool, right?
(woah, suddenly Pooh-Bah status. since I've crossed 1600 posts without even noticing? cool)
Edited by FireFox31 (19/05/2006 15:11)
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#281526 - 19/05/2006 20:51
Re: New 13" Macbook
[Re: CrackersMcCheese]
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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TmpgEnc
I don't know if this is relevant to what you're doing, but I've started using the Mac exclusively for putting AVIs onto DVDs. Once you get the hang of iDVD, it works great, and it's a one-step process, unlike the traditional hundred steps I was using before trying to do it with free software on the PC.
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